[AT] How about this orange tractor, Attn: Travis

[yestergears at intrstar.net]

Wow!  I didn't know my comments would liven up the discussion!!  What I left out of the original post was this was actually TWO 
differnet tractor dealers.  Having grown up on a farm and also been an electronic tech, I can see where there is no substitute for 
technical knowledge and troubleshooting ability.  That comes from experience.  Some of the best mechanics I've known were old 
timer     " shade tree" mechanics that everyone went to when they had a tough dog to chase.   The problem I can see for a tech would be 
out thinking the computer, in other words, thinking you know what's wrong, without checking the computer. 
 I personally ( this is Travis 1:1) don't see the day when a good mechanic will be replaced, maybe more like he can get the big bucks 
for diagnosing fixing what the computer can't tell you about.
  CAT has already been to my son's high school ag class twice to talk about careers in diesel mechanics. That may change with the down 
turn economically.



>------- Original Message -------
>From    : charliehill[mailto:charliehill at embarqmail.com]
>Sent    : 2/10/2009 4:19:19 PM
>To      : at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>Cc      : 
>Subject : RE: Re: [AT] How about this orange tractor,  Attn: Travis
>
 >Travis as much as I'd like to write a check for one of those DT's (if I 
could) the first thing I thought about is how complex they are and how 
expensive they would be to fix.  I'm pretty sure, knowing dealers in this 
area, that the dealer told you exactly that.  I also agree with Steve O. 
That ain't the way to fix them, unfortuneately that's the way a lot of car 
and truck dealers (and probably tractor dealers) go about it.

Steve O,  I have a car dealer friend that owns dealerships for six different 
brands that I know of, both domestic and foreign.  He told me several years 
ago, " these computer cars are great until they break but no one can fix 
them.  you need to trade them as soon as the warranty runs out".  I don't 
agree with him but that's what he told me.

Charlie Hill
----- Original Message ----- 



>
>
>
> Nice!!  Spend some of that rusty money and get you one!!  Lol.
>
> I still don't see any color being around 50 plus years from now like  the 
> old Allis Chalmers, Farmalls, Fords etc.
> I was at a dealership for Case NH two years ago and they had a wiring 
> harness out thanks to a mouse.  It cost over 4,000.00 to replace.
> That was parts only.
>  Talking with the dealer, he told me they are looking for computer 
> operators moreso than mechanics these days.... Amazing... He said
> the computer told them what to replace repair now.  Then all he needed was 
> a parts changer.
> Ah, the days of the shade tree mechanic... I must be getting old.  I'm 
> missing the old farmin days!!
>>------- Original Message -------
>>From    : charliehill[ mailto:charliehill at embarqmail.com] 
>>Sent    : 2/10/2009 8:02:50 AM
>>To      : at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>Cc      :
>>Subject : RE: [AT] How about this orange tractor,  Attn: Travis
>>
> >Travis, I'd give anything just to have a reason to buy one of these 
> >orange
> tractors.  Look out Green, Red and Blue,
> Orange is back in town.
>
>  http://www.agcoiron.com/default.cfm?PID=1.27.1.4 
>
> This NEW DT series is being released this week.
>
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