[AT] MF 65 LP tractor need hyd pump info

[Cecil Bearden]

I have 5 junk combines around here that I could cannibalize a pump from. 
  However, there is no room on a MF65 LP to belt drive a pump.  It would 
have to have a rear exit exhaust manifold and reroute the air cleaner 
pipe to give enough clearance on the right side.  Then you would have to 
fashion 2 idlers for the back side of the belt to give the pump and the 
generator and the fan enough belt contact to drive...  If I could drive 
a double pump or a larger pump with a flow divider from the camshaft 
drive for the power steering, then I could drive the loader pump and 
have some real movement in the loader.  3 gpm off the transmission pump 
is just not enough to really be efficient.  I can put a front pulley 
shaft drive on it, but then I have to build a guard to protect the pump 
and also have to remove the pump and drive to change the fan belt, 
another pain in the butt.  Continental had many types of auxillary 
drives on their other engines so I thought maybe the G176 in the 65 
could handle a 12 gallon pump....

Cecil in OKla



Indiana Robinson wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Cecil Bearden <crbearden at copper.net> wrote:
>> I had a MF65 on LP follow me home a couple of nights ago.  It has issues
>> with the front axle support that mounts to the engine.  The first time
>> in 40 years that I have seen one that is cracked.  It doesn't appear to
>> have ever had a loader mounted.  It must have had a bad wreck or fall...
>>
>> I am trying to install a hyd pump to put a front end loader on it if I
>> ever get a front support found..  Some forklift pumps mount on the
>> engine and drive off the camshaft.  They use a continental engine.  This
>> tractor has power steering.  Could I mount a hydraulic pump off the
>> camshaft drive for the power steering pump and run a loader and the
>> power steering.  I could always install a flow divider, or a double pump
>> to get the power steering...
>>
>> Cecil in OKla
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> 
> Hi Ceci:
> 
> I would probably just pull a pump, tank and valve off of a self
> propelled combine and use those. Many even have usable almost
> universal pump mounting brackets. Any pump that will lift a 4 or 6 row
> corn head should handle about any loader.
> Maybe MF or somebody else even had one to fit that engine if it was
> ever used on a combine.
> -
> I wonder if maybe it was used in tractor pulling? I have seen those
> things dropped so hard that front axles break completely out from
> under them. I can't recall just how our MF-65 was built in that area
> but I wonder if the existing parts could be repaired by welding and
> built up stronger than original? I have been known to add a good bit
> of heavy steel to a once broken casting that bridges out beyond the
> break area sometimes using a bunch of cap screws through the heavy
> steel into tapped holes in solid parts of the casting.
> I was going to put a loader on a Farmall 400 with wide front (then
> changed my mind) but once while I had the front axle out from under it
> I welded a truss type support under the axle at the pivot to spread
> the weight farther out on the axle.
> Years ago we broke a lift arm on my MF-165 and rather than replace it
> we just welded it and added another piece above it to span the weak
> area. It works perfectly and has for probably 30 years.
> A "good" repair can often be many times stronger than the original part.
> I mention this generally because I know that you already do stuff like that.
> 
>