[Farmall] Ethanol (was Re: [AT] Gas Tank Liner

[Tommy Wilson]

The urban areas of Richmond and Fairfax, VA began adding ethanol to 
their fuel about 2 1/2 years ago (if I was at work I could tell you 
when). Exactly when your local station converted to ethanol depends 
on the brand and the terminal from which the fuel is supplied. The 
rural areas outside of Richmond did not convert to mandatory ethanol 
blending until this fall although it was at the discretion of the 
dealer to convert earlier. Roanoke, Greensboro and Knoxville 
converted to mandatory blending last spring. The biggest issue I have 
heard of is with the first few tanks of fuel that are run through the 
engine. As has been mentioned earlier, the ethanol is a cleaner that 
will clear away deposits and rust from the inside of the tank and 
clog filters and carburetor nozzles. I encountered this first-hand in 
a 750cc Honda motorcycle. I drained and drained the system but 
finally had to take it in to have the carburetors cleaned and 
rebuilt. (I didn't want to tackle the dual carburetors). The day is 
coming when all gasoline will be blended with ethanol and that day is 
sooner than later! And it likely will not stop at 10%. For that you 
can think our wonderful leaders in Washington. I'll stop now before 
this becomes a rant!

Tommy Wilson
Warrenton, VA
1948 IH Cub
1950 IH H
1950 JD AR
1951 Ford 8N
1951 JD B
1952 IH SC

At 08:15 PM 12/29/2009, you wrote:
>Our state still has Non-oxygenated premium fuel available. I buy it for all
>  2 cycle and air cooled applications  is not only uneconomical ( if  not
>Federally subsidized) but runs too hot for air cooled engines.   My Stihl
>dealer told me not to use ehanol.
>
>Clark
>F-20
>
>
>In a message dated 12/29/2009 4:46:17 P.M. Central Standard Time,
>gustafsonjohnc at wildblue.net writes:
>
>Here on  the east coast( VA) it's probably been something like 5 or more
>years  since non ethanol fuel was easily available. The small engine
>problem
>is  fairly rampant, two strokes in particular. The problem is mostly those
>who  will not run engines dry after use and simply put them away for a
>week,
>month or season. They will take some of that treatment but leave them over
>the winter and there will be a problem. Get religious about emptying
>tanks,
>running them dry and the problem may not go away completely but it  is
>vastly
>improved.  Stabile helps also but generally I don't buy two  stroke fuel
>more
>than a gallon at a time, get it at a high volume station  and generally use
>mid grade. That's Stihls recommended grade and seems to  work for
>everything
>else pretty well.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "E. John Puckett" <ejpuckett at centurytel.net>
>To:  "Farmall/IHC mailing list" <farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>Sent:  Tuesday, December 29, 2009 11:23 AM
>Subject: Re: [Farmall] Ethanol (was Re:  [AT] Gas Tank Liner
>
>
> > In Mo. we have had the 10% ethanol  mandatory for a little over 2 years,
> > though it has been all you cold  get at many stations longer than that.
> > I have measured a 5% drop in  mileage on my vehicles with the ethanol,
> > but have not seen any  problems with the small engines that has been
> > mentioned in previous  posts.
> >
> > Barney Van De Weert wrote:
> >> As I understand  it, the Feds last year mandated that ALL gas have 10%
> >> ethanol  added, this amounts to legalized watering down of a product in
>my
> >>  opinion. All of my vehicles pretty much lost 10% in mileage. Other
> >> problem or it may be a benefit- the ethanol acts as a solvent so  it
>will
> >> loosen up deposits in fuel tank and systems as well as  breaking down
> >> components as Mike mentions. I have experienced the  fuel line issue he
> >> talks about on my saw as  well.
> >>
> >> Ethanol also will absorb water so you should not  have to worry as much
> >> about condensation in  fuel,
> >>  Barney Van De Weert
> >> 3828 Heartwood  St
> >> Uniontown OH 44685
> >>
> >>
> >>  bbvande at yahoo.com
> >> Cell#  330-760-5988
> >>
> >>
> >
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