[Farmall] Farmall H Questions,
Barney Van De Weert
bbvande at yahoo.com
Sun Dec 27 05:18:04 PST 2009
One thing I thought about, I checked compression after the engine had not run for a month, engime cold, this probably affected the results. Tractor is in very good condition and everything is tight, clutch and brakes and steering. Drawbar shows very little wear also, I don't think it's done much work. I'll do the detergent oil and filters.
We had a H,M, 460, 560, 656, 766, 966 and a 1468 on the farm, when ever I had to get into any of them they were always clean so that's what makes me wonder about this one..
Barney Van De Weert
3828 Heartwood St
Uniontown OH 44685
bbvande at yahoo.com
Cell# 330-760-5988
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From: Mike Sloane <mikesloane at verizon.net>
To: Farmall/IHC mailing list <farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Sun, December 27, 2009 5:57:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Farmall] Farmall H Questions,
I agree with the comments below. I suspect that the tractor has been
used with non detergent motor oil, which does not suspend the dirt and
other contaminants. If you really want to clean things out, change the
oil and replace it with something like 10W-30 or 15W-40 and run the
engine until it gets good and warm - maybe half an hour at speed, not
just sitting and idling. Then change the oil and filter again. You will
get out a LOT of the sludge and crud. As DBigdog mentioned, you may
have to repeat the process to get everything out (as the directions on
the hair shampoo bottle reads: "lather, rinse, repeat"). And you will
probably find that the rings will loosen up, bringing the compression up
a little. But chances are that the rings are worn at this point - if you
are getting "blow by" (gray fumes out of the valve cover vent) or gray
oily exhaust, chances are your rings could be due for replacement. On
the other hand, if you don't want to spend the money or tear into the
engine, I have several tractors in that state, and they have been
working for me satisfactorily for several years. :-)
Some folks will have a heart attack over the suggestion to use
multiweight detergent oil, and they are certainly entitled to their
opinion. I have been using NAPA "fleet service" 15W-40 (or the New
Holland equivalent) in ALL of my 4 stroke engines from lawn mowers to 60
hp diesel tractors and have yet to have a lubrication related failure.
(I cannot be bothered keeping different oils for different tractors,
except, of course, for two stroke engines.)
Finally, the IT manuals are OK as far as they go, but I strongly
recommend getting the IH service manual for the tractor - it is much
more thorough and helpful.. Go to <www.binderbooks.com> for the best
quality manuals at reasonable prices.
Mike
DBigdog wrote:
> 90 is not great but it should run reasonably well but will be down some on
> power. 100 - 120 or a bit higher would be better but it may come up some
> after you run it a while - especially if it has some rings stuck.
> Under no circumstances would I run an engine with nothing but kerosene
> in the crankcase. Not enough lube value in the kerosene. Add a little
> seafoam to the oil and watch it closely - when it turns black - change it.
> Be prepared to change it often for a while until you get the sludge flushed
> out.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Barney Van De Weert
> To: Farmall List
> Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 7:46 PM
> Subject: [Farmall] Farmall H Questions,
>
>
> Working on my "52" H today, did a compression check and came up w 90 Lbs in
> 3 cyls and 100 in one of them. After squirting oil in all of them they came
> up about 5 Lbs ea. Is 90 PSI about right for a std piston engine? Santa
> brought me a new I+T Shop Manual but there is nothing in the spects about
> compression.
>
> Also, I replaced the valve cover gasket, there is a lot of sludge on the
> head and inside the valve cover, can I run kerosene in the engine to try to
> clean it up, or is there a procedure to do this? I think this unit has sat
> for awhile before I got it.
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