[Farmall] Ethanol (was Re: [AT] Gas Tank Liner

Tue Dec 29 21:18:07 PST 2009

Ours come out of the Hampton Roads terminal system, Locally the one in 
Newport News. Like I said readily available. Most times you ran across a 
pump without 10% ethanol on its  been the exception rather than the rule.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tommy Wilson" <t17wilson at comcast.net>
To: "Farmall/IHC mailing list" <farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Farmall] Ethanol (was Re: [AT] Gas Tank Liner

> The urban areas of Richmond and Fairfax, VA began adding ethanol to
> their fuel about 2 1/2 years ago (if I was at work I could tell you
> when). Exactly when your local station converted to ethanol depends
> on the brand and the terminal from which the fuel is supplied. The
> rural areas outside of Richmond did not convert to mandatory ethanol
> blending until this fall although it was at the discretion of the
> dealer to convert earlier. Roanoke, Greensboro and Knoxville
> converted to mandatory blending last spring. The biggest issue I have
> heard of is with the first few tanks of fuel that are run through the
> engine. As has been mentioned earlier, the ethanol is a cleaner that
> will clear away deposits and rust from the inside of the tank and
> clog filters and carburetor nozzles. I encountered this first-hand in
> a 750cc Honda motorcycle. I drained and drained the system but
> finally had to take it in to have the carburetors cleaned and
> rebuilt. (I didn't want to tackle the dual carburetors). The day is
> coming when all gasoline will be blended with ethanol and that day is
> sooner than later! And it likely will not stop at 10%. For that you
> can think our wonderful leaders in Washington. I'll stop now before
> this becomes a rant!
>
> Tommy Wilson
> Warrenton, VA
> 1948 IH Cub
> 1950 IH H
> 1950 JD AR
> 1951 Ford 8N
> 1951 JD B
> 1952 IH SC
>
> At 08:15 PM 12/29/2009, you wrote:
>>Our state still has Non-oxygenated premium fuel available. I buy it for 
>>all
>>  2 cycle and air cooled applications  is not only uneconomical ( if  not
>>Federally subsidized) but runs too hot for air cooled engines.   My Stihl
>>dealer told me not to use ehanol.
>>
>>Clark
>>F-20
>>
>>
>>In a message dated 12/29/2009 4:46:17 P.M. Central Standard Time,
>>gustafsonjohnc at wildblue.net writes:
>>
>>Here on  the east coast( VA) it's probably been something like 5 or more
>>years  since non ethanol fuel was easily available. The small engine
>>problem
>>is  fairly rampant, two strokes in particular. The problem is mostly those
>>who  will not run engines dry after use and simply put them away for a
>>week,
>>month or season. They will take some of that treatment but leave them over
>>the winter and there will be a problem. Get religious about emptying
>>tanks,
>>running them dry and the problem may not go away completely but it  is
>>vastly
>>improved.  Stabile helps also but generally I don't buy two  stroke fuel
>>more
>>than a gallon at a time, get it at a high volume station  and generally 
>>use
>>mid grade. That's Stihls recommended grade and seems to  work for
>>everything
>>else pretty well.
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "E. John Puckett" <ejpuckett at centurytel.net>
>>To:  "Farmall/IHC mailing list" <farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>Sent:  Tuesday, December 29, 2009 11:23 AM
>>Subject: Re: [Farmall] Ethanol (was Re:  [AT] Gas Tank Liner
>>
>>
>> > In Mo. we have had the 10% ethanol  mandatory for a little over 2 
>> > years,
>> > though it has been all you cold  get at many stations longer than that.
>> > I have measured a 5% drop in  mileage on my vehicles with the ethanol,
>> > but have not seen any  problems with the small engines that has been
>> > mentioned in previous  posts.
>> >
>> > Barney Van De Weert wrote:
>> >> As I understand  it, the Feds last year mandated that ALL gas have 10%
>> >> ethanol  added, this amounts to legalized watering down of a product 
>> >> in
>>my
>> >>  opinion. All of my vehicles pretty much lost 10% in mileage. Other
>> >> problem or it may be a benefit- the ethanol acts as a solvent so  it
>>will
>> >> loosen up deposits in fuel tank and systems as well as  breaking down
>> >> components as Mike mentions. I have experienced the  fuel line issue 
>> >> he
>> >> talks about on my saw as  well.
>> >>
>> >> Ethanol also will absorb water so you should not  have to worry as 
>> >> much
>> >> about condensation in  fuel,
>> >>  Barney Van De Weert
>> >> 3828 Heartwood  St
>> >> Uniontown OH 44685
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  bbvande at yahoo.com
>> >> Cell#  330-760-5988
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
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