[AT] Tractor collecting question - wishing

Sat Dec 19 09:47:51 PST 2009

That's the story of my life Al.  That 8060 I told you about had factory 
duals on it and the only thing wrong that I could see was some of the cab 
exterior work lights were in bad shape and it needed one piece of the 
exhaust manifold that was cracked.  The part cost about $100.00.
I think it sold for less than $6000.00 and it was less than 10 miles from my 
farm.  I could have driven it home in a half hour but work is slow and I 
knew I needed to hold on to what cash I had.

Charlie

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Al Jones" <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: [AT] Tractor collecting question - wishing

> If you ever find one, do let me know!  Probably won't have the money to 
> buy
> it thought....
>
> Al
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: charliehill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Date: 12/19/2009 11:50:02 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Tractor collecting question - wishing
>>
>> I'll have to start paying attention.  It's possible I've seen one here or
>> there and didn't know what I was looking at.
>> Now I know to look and see if the Super A has a water pump.  If it does
> look
>> to see if the hood is higher and there is more gap between the fuel tank
> and
>> hydaulics.  I'm not sure I'd notice the difference in the steering wheel
>> since I'm not around Super A's all the time like I used to be.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Al Jones" <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 11:39 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Tractor collecting question - wishing
>>
>>
>> > Well what I posted was pretty redundant...  :)  But I agree with Terry,
> I
>> > think there are others around, scattered throughout tobacco country,
>> > people
>> > just don't know what they have.  And I have seen some people ask some
>> > pretty insane prices for them.  There was one on Tractorhouse.com back
> in
>> > the spring priced at 10,000.  The tractor is not there now, I wonder if
>> > someone actually paid that????
>> >
>> > If I was to ever run across a Super A-1, I would restore it like my
> Super
>> > A--as near like factory as I could.  What I really want is a later 
>> > model
>> > Super A.  I would add a fast hitch, IH deluxe seat, bigger pistons,
>> > etc.and
>> > then a nice--but not museum-quality--paint job to make it like the 
>> > Super
>> > A's looked in later years---with some farmer updates.  This is
> essentially
>> > what happened to my tractor (except for the fast hitch) between 1948 
>> > and
>> > when I restored it.
>> >
>> > Al
>> >
>> >
>> >> [Original Message]
>> >> From: charliehill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>> >> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> >> Date: 12/19/2009 11:09:13 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: [AT] Tractor collecting question - wishing
>> >>
>> >> Ok, I found this over on Smokstak.  Now I know.
>> >>
>> >> Charlie
>> >>
>> >> The Super A-1 is a cross-over between the Letter Series and 100 Series
>> >> tractors. It is made of parts from three different tractors. The
>> >> undercarriage and drive train are the same as a 100, with all having
> the
>> > "Z"
>> >> casting date and an FCM (123 ci) engine. The radiator, with water pump
> --
>> >
>> >> which the Super A does not have, is from a Super C. The sheet metal is
>> > from
>> >> a Super A. The noticeable difference between the Super A and A-1 is 
>> >> the
>> >> distance between the fuel tank and the hydrualic reservoir... the
> Super A
>> >> has about a 3/4" space between the two, while the A-1 has about a 2"
>> > space.
>> >> This is due to the taller radiator and grill, and the need to raise 
>> >> the
>> > fuel
>> >> tank to keep the 'body lines' on the same level. From what I have been
>> > able
>> >> to gather, the Super A-1 is a rare find. Some folks I have talked to,
> who
>> >> have been involved with the IH letter series for a number (more than 
>> >> 40
>> >> years) have never seen one. Supposedly, the McCormick Farmall folks
> were
>> >> trying to rush the 100 series to the farmers to compete with some 
>> >> other
>> >> tractor manufacturers and didn't quite have the 100 series tractor
>> > complete
>> >> in 1954, so they 'fashioned' the A-1 to get it out faster. As well,
> there
>> >> may have been less a desire on the part of farmers to accept the 'new'
>> > 100
>> >> series tractor, since it still sported the Super A decals, and were
> very
>> >> reluctant to buy the A-1. From what I know, the completed 100 was 
>> >> first
>> > sold
>> >> in the latter part of 1954 (about 1200 tractors) thru 1956. As a 
>> >> result
>> > of
>> >> slow sales of the A-1 in 1954, it has been suggested by some folks in
> IH
>> >> circles, that the vast majority of the approximately 1957 A-1s 
>> >> produced
>> > were
>> >> shipped / sold overseas (Australia, New Zealand, South America,
> Europe).
>> >> With all that said, there may have been less than 200 A-1s that saw
>> > action
>> >> in the USA. Again, I don't have factual / first-hand proof of what all
> I
>> > am
>> >> saying, but I have spoken with IH collectors and enthusiasts, and that
> is
>> >> what they say. I do have an A-1 and am near completion of restoring 
>> >> the
>> >> tractor. I have done a lot of research and talked to a lot of folks
> and I
>> >> know of only 7 A-1s that exist, for sure. I believe there are plenty
>> > others,
>> >> but folks don't know what they have, because they don't know -- what
> they
>> >> don't know. If anyone is looking for an A-1, I believe the best bets
> are
>> >> wherever tobacco wass raised during that period (KY, TN, NC, VA, SC).
>> > Please
>> >> let me know if you have any questions about the A-1 that I can help
> with.
>> >> Terry
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> From: "charliehill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>> >> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>> > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> >> Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 10:56 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: [AT] Tractor collecting question - wishing
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Don and Al,  you guys have got me now.  What is a Farmall A-1?
>> >> >
>> >> > Charlie
>> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> > From: "Don Bowen" <don.bowen at earthlink.net>
>> >> > To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>> >> > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> >> > Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 10:46 AM
>> >> > Subject: Re: [AT] Tractor collecting question - wishing
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> More than than for collecting I want a work tractor.  I have a Ford
>> > 3000
>> >> >> that is used on a brush hog and a box blade.  I am looking for a
>> > Farmall
>> >> >> A, A-1, 140, etc with a good belly mounted finish mower.  Both will
> be
>> >> >> used to maintain some property in Missouri.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Now if a really good Ferguson 30 showed up I would be hard pressed
> to
>> >> >> turn it down.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -- 
>> >> >> Don Bowen           KI6DIU
>> >> >> http://www.braingarage.com/Dons/Travels/journal/Journal.html
>> >> >>
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