[AT] Tractor collecting question - wishing

[Al Jones]

If you ever find one, do let me know!  Probably won't have the money to buy
it thought....

Al


> [Original Message]
> From: charliehill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Date: 12/19/2009 11:50:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [AT] Tractor collecting question - wishing
>
> I'll have to start paying attention.  It's possible I've seen one here or 
> there and didn't know what I was looking at.
> Now I know to look and see if the Super A has a water pump.  If it does
look 
> to see if the hood is higher and there is more gap between the fuel tank
and 
> hydaulics.  I'm not sure I'd notice the difference in the steering wheel 
> since I'm not around Super A's all the time like I used to be.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Al Jones" <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
<at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 11:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [AT] Tractor collecting question - wishing
>
>
> > Well what I posted was pretty redundant...  :)  But I agree with Terry,
I
> > think there are others around, scattered throughout tobacco country, 
> > people
> > just don't know what they have.  And I have seen some people ask some
> > pretty insane prices for them.  There was one on Tractorhouse.com back
in
> > the spring priced at 10,000.  The tractor is not there now, I wonder if
> > someone actually paid that????
> >
> > If I was to ever run across a Super A-1, I would restore it like my
Super
> > A--as near like factory as I could.  What I really want is a later model
> > Super A.  I would add a fast hitch, IH deluxe seat, bigger pistons, 
> > etc.and
> > then a nice--but not museum-quality--paint job to make it like the Super
> > A's looked in later years---with some farmer updates.  This is
essentially
> > what happened to my tractor (except for the fast hitch) between 1948 and
> > when I restored it.
> >
> > Al
> >
> >
> >> [Original Message]
> >> From: charliehill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
> >> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
<at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> >> Date: 12/19/2009 11:09:13 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [AT] Tractor collecting question - wishing
> >>
> >> Ok, I found this over on Smokstak.  Now I know.
> >>
> >> Charlie
> >>
> >> The Super A-1 is a cross-over between the Letter Series and 100 Series
> >> tractors. It is made of parts from three different tractors. The
> >> undercarriage and drive train are the same as a 100, with all having
the
> > "Z"
> >> casting date and an FCM (123 ci) engine. The radiator, with water pump
--
> >
> >> which the Super A does not have, is from a Super C. The sheet metal is
> > from
> >> a Super A. The noticeable difference between the Super A and A-1 is the
> >> distance between the fuel tank and the hydrualic reservoir... the
Super A
> >> has about a 3/4" space between the two, while the A-1 has about a 2"
> > space.
> >> This is due to the taller radiator and grill, and the need to raise the
> > fuel
> >> tank to keep the 'body lines' on the same level. From what I have been
> > able
> >> to gather, the Super A-1 is a rare find. Some folks I have talked to,
who
> >> have been involved with the IH letter series for a number (more than 40
> >> years) have never seen one. Supposedly, the McCormick Farmall folks
were
> >> trying to rush the 100 series to the farmers to compete with some other
> >> tractor manufacturers and didn't quite have the 100 series tractor
> > complete
> >> in 1954, so they 'fashioned' the A-1 to get it out faster. As well,
there
> >> may have been less a desire on the part of farmers to accept the 'new'
> > 100
> >> series tractor, since it still sported the Super A decals, and were
very
> >> reluctant to buy the A-1. From what I know, the completed 100 was first
> > sold
> >> in the latter part of 1954 (about 1200 tractors) thru 1956. As a result
> > of
> >> slow sales of the A-1 in 1954, it has been suggested by some folks in
IH
> >> circles, that the vast majority of the approximately 1957 A-1s produced
> > were
> >> shipped / sold overseas (Australia, New Zealand, South America,
Europe).
> >> With all that said, there may have been less than 200 A-1s that saw
> > action
> >> in the USA. Again, I don't have factual / first-hand proof of what all
I
> > am
> >> saying, but I have spoken with IH collectors and enthusiasts, and that
is
> >> what they say. I do have an A-1 and am near completion of restoring the
> >> tractor. I have done a lot of research and talked to a lot of folks
and I
> >> know of only 7 A-1s that exist, for sure. I believe there are plenty
> > others,
> >> but folks don't know what they have, because they don't know -- what
they
> >> don't know. If anyone is looking for an A-1, I believe the best bets
are
> >> wherever tobacco wass raised during that period (KY, TN, NC, VA, SC).
> > Please
> >> let me know if you have any questions about the A-1 that I can help
with.
> >> Terry
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "charliehill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
> >> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
> > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> >> Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 10:56 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [AT] Tractor collecting question - wishing
> >>
> >>
> >> > Don and Al,  you guys have got me now.  What is a Farmall A-1?
> >> >
> >> > Charlie
> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> > From: "Don Bowen" <don.bowen at earthlink.net>
> >> > To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
> >> > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> >> > Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 10:46 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: [AT] Tractor collecting question - wishing
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> More than than for collecting I want a work tractor.  I have a Ford
> > 3000
> >> >> that is used on a brush hog and a box blade.  I am looking for a
> > Farmall
> >> >> A, A-1, 140, etc with a good belly mounted finish mower.  Both will
be
> >> >> used to maintain some property in Missouri.
> >> >>
> >> >> Now if a really good Ferguson 30 showed up I would be hard pressed
to
> >> >> turn it down.
> >> >>
> >> >> -- 
> >> >> Don Bowen           KI6DIU
> >> >> http://www.braingarage.com/Dons/Travels/journal/Journal.html
> >> >>
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