[AT] When did you start collecting old tractors?

[Al Jones]

The 100's had a solid red paint scheme.  The 130's and the rest of the
Farmall line got the white grille and white strip on the hoods.

There were several AV's and Super AV's in our community.  Even in the '80s
I can think of two Super AV's within 5 miles of home.  I had a chance to
buy one of them, from the second owner, that had been restored pretty
well--not showroom quality, but it looked nice.  Stupid, stupid, stupid me
didn't.  It would have been nice to have that tractor, since it worked all
its life less than 3 miles from my Super A, and probably came from the same
dealer!  Did I mention it was a kerosene/distillate model, just like my
Super A? :(

PS both of them did regular farm work--tobacco, etc.  I am sure the farmers
that owned them got them because that is what the dealer could get.

Al


> [Original Message]
> From: charliehill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Date: 12/13/2009 6:41:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [AT] When did you start collecting old tractors?
>
> Long ago,  when Super A's and 100's were relatively new still, about the 
> only 100 I had ever seen was an International and was painted red and
looked 
> just like a Super A.  I assumed back then, and I guess it was still in my 
> mind, that the hundred series was an International version of the A
series 
> Farmall.  Now obviously that wasn't true because my uncle had a 140 and
it 
> was just as you said, with both names on it.  I don't think I've ever
seen a 
> 130 at work.  I've seen them at shows but I don't remember them from
working 
> tractor days.
>
> A friend of my dad had an AV now that was a unique tractor.  I'm not sure 
> how they kept them from turning over on a hard right turn.  Super A's and 
> 140's were top heavy enough on that side.
>
> Charlie
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Al Jones" <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
<at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 5:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [AT] When did you start collecting old tractors?
>
>
> > The Farmalls were intended as regular, "row crop" tractors.  The
> > Internationals were more for industrial applications.  A lot of them had
> > foot throttles, maybe different tire options, etc.  I have seen photos
of
> > an International Super A cultivating tobacco.  I expect, especially in
the
> > Super A era, that they would sell, and farmers would buy, whatever was
on
> > the hood!  I expect a lot of Internationals got sold for mowing
roadsides,
> > etc.
> >
> > The later 140's said International on the hood, but the decal with
"140" 
> > on
> > it had Farmall at the top of it.  The 140 was the last International
> > Harvester tractor to have Farmall on it anywhere.
> >
> > Al
> >
> >
> >> [Original Message]
> >> From: charliehill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
> >> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
<at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> >> Date: 12/13/2009 4:43:29 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [AT] When did you start collecting old tractors?
> >>
> >> Al, what is the story on the Farmall branded and International branded
> >> versions?
> >>
> >> Charlie
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Al Jones" <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
> >> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
> > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> >> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 4:03 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [AT] When did you start collecting old tractors?
> >>
> >>
> >> > The lineage is A--Super A ---100----130---140.  The A has some
subtile
> >> > differences from the newer models.  The Super A---140 are all very, 
> >> > very
> >> > similar other than sheetmetal, improvements to engine HP, and stuff
you
> >> > would have to find with a parts book.  After the 140 ended
production 
> >> > IH
> >> > sold the 274.  The 274 was a model sourced from Japan, it's offset
but
> >> > pretty much nothing interchanges with the earlier ones except for the
> >> > shanks, shovels, hillers, etc. for the cultivators.
> >> >
> >> > Al
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> [Original Message]
> >> >> From: Mike Sloane <mikesloane at verizon.net>
> >> >> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> >> >> Date: 12/12/2009 8:34:23 AM
> >> >> Subject: Re: [AT] When did you start collecting old tractors?
> >> >>
> >> >> I guess you are right, Charlie. I was thinking A --> Super A --> 100
> > -->
> >> >> 130 --> 140. but I guess you could lump the 100 series as all the
same
> >> >> tractor for most purposes. :-)
> >> >>
> >> >> That tractor came with a much abused IH 1000 loader. After I fixed
> >> >> everything up as best I could, the loader was still pretty useless
for
> >> >> anything but light stuff, like manure or maybe a bale of hay. It
was a
> >> >> very interesting looking tractor when it was done, but not real
> >> >> practical. And the steering was pretty heavy with the loader on it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Mike
> >> >>
> >> >> charliehill wrote:
> >> >> > Come on Mike,  you've got to get your lineage right.  140 was the 
> >> >> > son
> >> > of a
> >> >> > Super A, Grandson of an A and great grandson of maybe a F12 or
> >> > something.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Charlie
> >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> >> > From: "Mike Sloane" <mikesloane at verizon.net>
> >> >> > To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
> >> > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> >> >> > Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 7:31 AM
> >> >> > Subject: Re: [AT] When did you start collecting old tractors?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> As much as I am fond of my old Cubs, I had a Farmall 140 (great
> >> > grandson
> >> >> >> of the Super A) with a C-3 mower (like the Cub's) that would chew
> >> >> >> through tall grass that would have stalled the Cubs cold.
Sometimes
> > I
> >> >> >> wish that i hadn't sold the 140, but I was out of work and
needed a
> >> >> >> few
> >> >> >> bucks more than I needed the tractor...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> > <http://public.fotki.com/mikesloane/farmall_140/farmall_140_516d.html>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Mike
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Indiana Robinson wrote:
> >> >> >>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Al Jones
> >> > <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
> >> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>> At present, I have the Super A (finally finished in 2005)
> >> >> >>> ============================================
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> As much as I love driving my Cub and mowing with its Woods
model 
> >> >> >>> 42
> >> >> >>> belly mower I have always felt that a Super A would be a dandy
> > mowing
> >> >> >>> tractor with a Woods model 59 belly mower.
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