[AT] Old trains/now NC State foolishness

[charliehill]

David,  that Chem 101 class had more people than in my high school 
graduating class by a factor of about 4 or maybe 5.  I knew right off I was 
in trouble so I went to one of the "help sessions" the grad students held. 
I never got to talk to anyone.  There was a line and at the head of the line 
were some "smart" kids that were having a nerd session with the grad 
students about the extra credit problems at the end of the problem book. 
The day my mom took me up to State talk to the admissions folks, the guy 
looked at my high school records and told me he was going "do me a favor" 
and go ahead and enroll me in the school of engineering as a freshman.  It 
took me several years to figure it out but now there is no doubt in my mind 
that he was a bald face liar and he knew full well he was sending me to 
certain failure.

Charlie



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Bruce" <davidbruce at yadtel.net>
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Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 5:28 AM
Subject: Re: [AT] Old trains/now NC State foolishness


>I was in "faux" chemistry  (Textile Chemistry) so I had the joy of
> taking several more classes in the "real" chemistry department under the
> pressure of being the "enemy".  It got so bad that after I finished the
> year of organic chemistry the TC department started teaching all their
> own chemistry classes beyond chem 101/107.    Like Charlie I came from a
> smaller HS and didn't have access to physics.  The only difference
> between his days in chem 101 and mine are by my day the slide rule was
> replaced with a calculator.  Same concept with the tests (I took mine in
> Dabney Hall - the chemistry building) multiple guess with the most
> likely wrong answers as choices.  Chem 101 was my first college class
> and the lecture hall held more people than were in my graduating class
> in HS - talk about culture shock.
>
> David
> NW NC
> Al Jones wrote:
>> When I came along in the '90s Chem 101 and 103 (the lab) were still very 
>> much weed-out courses.  I lucked up, my major only required Chem 
>> 100..."Chemistry for poets" the professor called it.  There was no lab 
>> and it was easier than high school chemistry. (We had a really good high 
>> school chem teacher when I came along.)  But, we still have to take our 
>> tests with the rest of the whole department outside of class---on a 
>> SATURDAY morning.
>>
>> I always thought the folks in the chemistry dept. at NCSU was a little 
>> too big for their britches.
>>
>> The worst class I ever had though was botany.  We had a grad. student 
>> that taught the lab that thought she knew everything and had to tell us 
>> about it.  The labs on either side of us would always get done 45 minutes 
>> to an hour before we did because she wouldn't shut up and just give us 
>> the assignment.  Dr. VanDyke taught the class and spent more time talking 
>> to us about his wood duck carvings than he did teaching botany, yet 
>> everybody thought he was wonderful but me.  Managed a "C" and was proud 
>> of it.
>>
>> Al
>>
>>
>>
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