[AT] 2010 toyota camry

charliehill charliehill at embarqmail.com
Mon Dec 7 08:06:46 PST 2009


Hmmm,  I wonder if there was an issue with the throttle position sensor that 
could be fixed by replacing it with a later revision unit?

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken Knierim" <ken.knierim at gmail.com>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: [AT] 2010 toyota camry


> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 7:35 AM, charliehill 
> <charliehill at embarqmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Ken, I don't know a thing about Toyotas but about all electronic 
>> controlled
>> cars "learn" how they are driven and respond in kind.  I suspect your 
>> wife
>> never calls for "flank speed".   If you drove it a lot of the time the
>> computer might adjust to your driving style.  At least that's the way the
>> GM
>> computer cars and trucks are.
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>
> Charlie,
>    The throttle isn't steady for her either. Couple the uncertainty of
> throttle position with a fuzzy logic controller on the shift points and
> you've got something that's annoying at best in traffic (at least to an
> engineer like myself). I've driven it and observed the same issues as a
> passenger. We've been in newer models of the same vehicle and they've made
> significant improvements so I'd say the factory heard some complaints and
> fixed it. I think this was the first year of that "drive-by-wire" in the
> Toyota models and that's usually a warning, in my books. It's rather
> troublesome in poor traction conditions when you want to feather the
> throttle and the car is deciding for you what it's going to do (with at
> least half a second or more of delay). But it gets good mileage, it's
> reliable and she's happy with the car so it's not going to change.
>
> Also, she's never driven vehicles with carburetion in daily service (she
> drove my Blazer ONCE) and I've only recently gone to vehicles with 
> injection
> (about 5 years back now) so there is a difference in experience as well. I
> have to refrain from pumping the throttle during startup and she's been
> taught to never do that. She's a few years my junior, city raised and has
> little experience with snow and mud too. That's when I get to drive her 
> car.
>
> Ken in AZ
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