[AT] [SEL] Aussie tractors across the USA

Tue Aug 4 07:22:15 PDT 2009

Hi Larry.  Thanks for the more detailed explaination.  I really didn't have 
time this morning to think out and write out my thoughts.   On those big 
spreader trucks and the tri-cycle type Big A spreaders, if you don't turn 
the front wheel(s) around it/they will skid when you try to stop or turn on 
wet, slick surfaces.   I never thought about the tiller but that makes 
sense.   Also I agree with you completely about the turf tires.   There 
might be good applications for them,  maybe on a golf course fairway that is 
mowed constantly and generally mowed under ideal conditions but for anything 
that is slick, sloped or requires some drawbar pull they are about 
worthless.

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Goss" <rlgoss at insightbb.com>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [AT] [SEL] Aussie tractors across the USA

That explanation is pretty good, Charlie. There are certain applications 
where the wheel treads need to be reversed so you get better traction or 
less disturbance to the soil. If you look at whether the traction needs to 
roll the wheel vs. move the equipment, it will give you help in knowing 
which way to have the tread face. Un-powered front wheels work better with 
the tread reversed. Powered tiller tires work best with the tread reversed 
(the tires are typically holding the tiller back, instead of powering it 
forward), etc. But if you are running a counter-rotating tiller, the tires 
should face in the standard direction. Often snowblowers work better with 
the treads reversed. Ground traction farm equipment runs with the treads 
reversed (ground-powered manure spreaders, seeders.)

IMHO, What doesn't make sense is ANY use of turf tires. I know, I know---  
I've heard all the arguments about ruts in the sod, damage to the thatch, 
etc, etc, etc -- all BS. When push comes to shove, turf tires have nearly 
60% slippage. That means they cause you to spend more time mowing your 
grass, and you always use more gas when using turf tires. You can save 25% 
on mowing time and gasoline usage by changing out the OEM turf tires with 
low lug high-flotation tires, and your grass will stop suffering from 
friction burn caused by the tires. In this day and age of ZTR mowers, that's 
a significant change in operating cost and the health of your lawn.

Please note that I'm not advocating using aggressive ag lugs on lawnmowers, 
but even those tires are probably better than turf tires.

Let the flames begin. I have run the "experiment" to back up my claims. I 
ran a large L&G tractor with a 60-inch deck on it for 10 years before 
exchanging the turf tires for low lug high-flotation ones. It was the only 
change made to the mowing equipment, and I got the changes I'm talking 
about.

Larry

----- Original Message -----
From: charliehill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009 5:38
Subject: Re: [AT] [SEL] Aussie tractors across the USA
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> Dave, there is less rolling resistance with them turned
> backwards. Keep an
> eye out for fertilizer spreader trucks. Many of them are 2
> wheel drive.
> They run fat directional tires on the rear with the tread turned
> the way we
> have them on our tractors. They run fat directional tires
> on the front
> turned around backwards. The guys tell me they roll easier
> that way and are
> less inclinded to slide or skid since the ground is pushing them
> to turn
> rather than the tires pushing into the ground. Hope that
> makes sense.
>
> Charlie Hill
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dave Merchant" <kosh at ncweb.com>
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>
>
> > I've seen this before, with the rear tires (tyres) on backward.
> >
> > Some say that this gives better tyre (tire) wear on the road.
> >
> > http://www.chamberlain9g.org.au/galleries/restoration/8.jpg
> >
> > Any thoughts about this?
> >
> > Dave Merchant
> >
> >
> > At 06:39 PM 8/3/2009, you wrote:
> >>Something that most Australian members are probably unaware of
> . A group
> >>of members from the Chamberlain 9G Tractor Club in West
> Australia are at
> >>the moment driving their tractors across the USA . These
> blokes are from
> >>Ongerup and the Porongerups here in West Australia .The group
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> any of you blokes in the US
> >>see the distinctive orange coloured tractors say''
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