[AT] test, hurricane

[Al Jones]

The sun is trying to peep out here now--11:20 AM.

Al


> [Original Message]
> From: charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Date: 9/6/2008 10:59:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [AT] test, hurricane
>
> Hmmmm, that should say the house is open to the wind on all but the north 
> side.  Guess my delete key got happy or something.
>
> Charlie
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "charlie hill" <chill8 at suddenlink.net>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
<at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 10:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [AT] test, hurricane
>
>
> > Hazel was in 54.  It is one of my earliest memories.  I had just turned
4
> > years old.  Our house was nearly new, built in 51.  It is up on a hill, 
> > well
> > what we call a hill in Craven Co. NC., and is on all but the north side
> > which is wooded.  I can remember lying on my parents bed and listening
to
> > the wind blow for what seemed like hours.  The rain was blowing in
between
> > the sashes on three year old double hung windows.   The next year 
brought
> > Diane and Ione which caused the biggest flood ever seen around our farm
> > until Floyd came along in '99.  All of our neighbors were flooded out
and
> > most of them were either in our house or in our yard along with all of 
> > their
> > cars, trucks, tractors and animals.  Our house was still a good 7 feet
or 
> > so
> > above flood level.  When Floyd came along in 99 the flood stopped 1"
from
> > the wood in foundation of the house.
> >
> > The difference was not so much because of the severity of the storms or 
> > the
> > amount of rain but because of NC Dept of Transportation.  In the years
> > between 1955 and 1999 new roads were built in eastern NC.  Because of
the
> > terrain here many of them crossed swamp land bordering creeks and
rivers.
> > In those days they just filled in the swamp and only built a bridge
over 
> > the
> > creek.  That effectively built a dam with a spillway the width of the 
> > creek
> > instead of the natural drain though the swamp that in many places is
> > hundreds of feet up to miles wide.
> >
> > In the 99 flood water was rising an inch an hour  at my mom's house. 
> > Three
> > miles down stream on the creek there is a bridge for a road that did not
> > exist in 55.  The water at that bridge was at road level on the up steam
> > side and 3 feet below road level on the down stream side.
> > Water was running through the bridge opening (nearly 100' long) like it 
> > was
> > running out of a pipe,  shooting out into the down stream area.
> >
> > They, NC DOT, know it but they don't like to talk about it.  A lot of
you
> > probably saw Bill Clinton visiting the historic freed slave town of
> > Princeville NC that was completely wiped out in the 99 flood. 
Princeville
> > is just up steam of the newly built Hwy 64 freeway project that dams up
> > miles of low land in the Tar River basin.  There is a project in the
> > planning stages to 4 lane the portion of US Hwy 17 that runs through 
> > Craven
> > Co.  A new bridge will be built over the Neuse River very near to the 
> > Swift
> > Creek bridge that contributed to the flood at my  moms place.  In the
> > environmental impact statement for the project it requires that the new
> > bridge be built above grade (on pilings) for the entire span over the
low
> > lands and that the old roadway blocking the river low grounds be
removed.
> >
> > I know that is more information than anyone wanted but once in a while I
> > have to get that off my chest.
> >
> > Charlie
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Gene Waugh Elgin, Illinois USA" <gwaugh at wowway.com>
> > To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
> > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 9:48 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AT] test, hurricane
> >
> >
> >> Al, when I saw the following, MY mind went back to Hurricane Hazel,
> >> 1954, if my mind serves me correctly!  We lived outside of Raleigh a
> >> ways---Dad was a Dept Head at NCS College (at the time).  We were out
in
> >> the country; IIRC, it was about two weeks for power to be restored, and
> >> longer than that for the phones.  We were very popular in the
> >> neighborhood; we had an old dug well, while most had drilled wells.
> >> Hard to use a bucket in them!!
> >>
> >> Gene
> >> Elgin, Illinois USA
> >>
> >> Al Jones wrote:
> >>> <...snip>  And you are right-- Raleigh learned about hurricanes the
hard
> >>> way.  They had a big mess after hurricane fran in 1996--I thought I 
> >>> could
> >>> go back up there after the storm (I was still a student at NCSU at the
> >>> time) and enjoy such luxuries we didn't have after the storm at home,
> >>> stuff
> >>> such as running water, electricity, and air conditioning.  WRONG! 
> >>> Didn't
> >>> take me long to figure out that DH Hill Library and a lot of other
> >>> on-campus buildings had back up generators though.....
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Al
> >>>
> >>
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