[Ford-ferguson] Massey Ferguson 178 Diesel

Chris C jdnutinwa at yahoo.com
Mon Sep 22 09:15:09 PDT 2008


John,

    Yes,  that is a baler hiding under the tarp.  It is a Massey Ferguson 1837 that I bought new this spring.  That is why I bought the 178,  I was running it with a John Deere 3020 but I thought I would buy a red tractor to go with the red baler.

    The cat in the background is a 1948 Caterpillar D6,  it is a narrow gauge (8U Series) so it looks like an overgrown D4.  It has a Issacon Blade which is the absolute worst blade setup I have ever seen..

    The yellow truck is a 1972 Kenworth W923.  The Green truck is a 1978 GMC 5 Star General.  

     I am located in Washington State,  USA a little bit south of Mt. Vernon.  

     I just bought a full set of manuals off of SSB internet tractor services.  They had a full set for less than $50 so now I can take my time finding originals.

     The dealer I bought the tractor from is going to help me adjust the clutches,  hopefully that will take care of my PTO issues.  I am going to take both tractor and baler to them next week. They have some warranty work to do on the baler too..

      Thankyou for all the help!

                        Chris




--- On Mon, 9/22/08, John Maddock <agtronixjv at southcom.com.au> wrote:

> From: John Maddock <agtronixjv at southcom.com.au>
> Subject: Re: [Ford-ferguson] Massey Ferguson 178 Diesel
> To: "Ford-Ferguson mailing list" <ford-ferguson at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 4:45 AM
> Chris
> 
> Yep, all looks very familiar.  I see you have a loader on
> the 178.  I
> bought my ol'girl (in much, much worse shape than
> yours) because it had a
> loader.  I'm setting up for big bales & a loader is
> essential.  I see a
> baler under the tarpaulin in one pic.  A big square baler
> or a small
> square baler? (I recently bought a clapped out IH241 big
> round baler. 
> Price was right coz most of the bearings on the rollers
> will have to be
> replaced.)  Also some interesting gear in the background. 
> IH dozer? 
> Couple of Kenworth tippers?
> 
> JV
> 
> 
> 
> > Ok here is a link to a few pics I took today with my
> cell phone..
> >
> >          Chris
> >
> >
> http://public.fotki.com/jdnut/massey-ferguson-equ/mf-178-diesel-/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Sun, 9/21/08, Chris C
> <jdnutinwa at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Chris C <jdnutinwa at yahoo.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Ford-ferguson] Massey Ferguson 178
> Diesel
> >> To: "Ford-Ferguson mailing list"
> >> <ford-ferguson at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> >> Date: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 8:10 PM
> >> Thanks for the reply,
> >>
> >>      I have a problem with the PTO on my 178.  It
> was my
> >> impression that the engine clutch was a two stage
> clutch.
> >> The first position stopping the transmission and
> all the way
> >> down stopping the PTO.  I bought an I & T
> Manual No.
> >> MF-29 for the 175,  and there is no mention of the
> clutch
> >> being two staged,  but it does show info the the
> IPTO
> >> (Independant PTO)  From what I can gather from
> that,  it is
> >> a hydraulic operated PTO clutch..   All I know for
> sure is
> >> that with the clutch all the way down,  the
> shifter for the
> >> PTO just grinds..  If I kill the engine,  engage
> the PTO and
> >> then start the tractor it will turn.
> >>
> >>      My tractor has the 'Multi-Power'
> switch on the
> >> dash.  I was mowing with it and much to my
> suprise,  when I
> >> started down a hill the tractor freewheels down
> the hill.
> >> When I shift it to the High range it stays in gear
> on the
> >> hill.  Is this normal?  (I am assuming that
> forward on the
> >> multi power switch is high and back is low based
> on the
> >> tractor speed)
> >>
> >>      Those are my two main issues.  I would also
> like to
> >> replace the fenders and buy all the manuals for
> it.  (So far
> >> Ebay has been the best source I have found)  So if
> you could
> >> point my in the direction of people the deal with
> the 178 I
> >> would appreciate it.
> >>
> >>      I took some picutres of it today,  so I will
> try to
> >> upload them to my Fotki site and post a link later
> tonight.
> >>
> >>                  Thanks in advance for the help!
> >>
> >>                         Chris
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- On Sun, 9/21/08, John Maddock
> >> <agtronixjv at southcom.com.au> wrote:
> >>
> >> > From: John Maddock
> <agtronixjv at southcom.com.au>
> >> > Subject: Re: [Ford-ferguson] Massey Ferguson
> 178
> >> Diesel
> >> > To: "Ford-Ferguson mailing list"
> >> <ford-ferguson at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> >> > Cc: ford-ferguson at lists.antique-tractor.com
> >> > Date: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 3:14 PM
> >> > G'day Chris
> >> >
> >> > The 178 is the later version of the 175, and
> as I
> >> > understand it was
> >> > introduced to provide slightly higher
> horsepower and a
> >> 4x2
> >> > (i.e. 8 speed)
> >> > gearbox. Sold in Aus & NZ as well as UK
> >> >
> >> > I've got a 135, 148 and a 168 so I've
> got a
> >> tad of
> >> > experience.  What do
> >> > you need to know?
> >> >
> >> > JV
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Hello All,
> >> > >
> >> > >       I am new to this list,  but some
> of you may
> >> have
> >> > seen me on the John
> >> > > Deere lists..
> >> > >
> >> > >        I have recently bought myself a
> Massey
> >> Ferguson
> >> > 178 Diesel.  I am
> >> > > told that is is the same thing as a 175
> only made
> >> for
> >> > the UK
> >> > > market.  I am searching for a source of
> good
> >> > information on it and
> >> > > also looking to work some quirks out of
> the
> >> tractor.
> >> > >
> >> > >                        Chris
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
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