[AT] test, hurricane

Sat Sep 6 09:23:37 PDT 2008

Still cloudy and breezy here Al but the sky has brightened up.  The  sun 
should be out soon.

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Al Jones" <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: [AT] test, hurricane

> The sun is trying to peep out here now--11:20 AM.
>
> Al
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Date: 9/6/2008 10:59:51 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AT] test, hurricane
>>
>> Hmmmm, that should say the house is open to the wind on all but the north
>> side.  Guess my delete key got happy or something.
>>
>> Charlie
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "charlie hill" <chill8 at suddenlink.net>
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 10:50 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AT] test, hurricane
>>
>>
>> > Hazel was in 54.  It is one of my earliest memories.  I had just turned
> 4
>> > years old.  Our house was nearly new, built in 51.  It is up on a hill,
>> > well
>> > what we call a hill in Craven Co. NC., and is on all but the north side
>> > which is wooded.  I can remember lying on my parents bed and listening
> to
>> > the wind blow for what seemed like hours.  The rain was blowing in
> between
>> > the sashes on three year old double hung windows.   The next year
> brought
>> > Diane and Ione which caused the biggest flood ever seen around our farm
>> > until Floyd came along in '99.  All of our neighbors were flooded out
> and
>> > most of them were either in our house or in our yard along with all of
>> > their
>> > cars, trucks, tractors and animals.  Our house was still a good 7 feet
> or
>> > so
>> > above flood level.  When Floyd came along in 99 the flood stopped 1"
> from
>> > the wood in foundation of the house.
>> >
>> > The difference was not so much because of the severity of the storms or
>> > the
>> > amount of rain but because of NC Dept of Transportation.  In the years
>> > between 1955 and 1999 new roads were built in eastern NC.  Because of
> the
>> > terrain here many of them crossed swamp land bordering creeks and
> rivers.
>> > In those days they just filled in the swamp and only built a bridge
> over
>> > the
>> > creek.  That effectively built a dam with a spillway the width of the
>> > creek
>> > instead of the natural drain though the swamp that in many places is
>> > hundreds of feet up to miles wide.
>> >
>> > In the 99 flood water was rising an inch an hour  at my mom's house.
>> > Three
>> > miles down stream on the creek there is a bridge for a road that did 
>> > not
>> > exist in 55.  The water at that bridge was at road level on the up 
>> > steam
>> > side and 3 feet below road level on the down stream side.
>> > Water was running through the bridge opening (nearly 100' long) like it
>> > was
>> > running out of a pipe,  shooting out into the down stream area.
>> >
>> > They, NC DOT, know it but they don't like to talk about it.  A lot of
> you
>> > probably saw Bill Clinton visiting the historic freed slave town of
>> > Princeville NC that was completely wiped out in the 99 flood.
> Princeville
>> > is just up steam of the newly built Hwy 64 freeway project that dams up
>> > miles of low land in the Tar River basin.  There is a project in the
>> > planning stages to 4 lane the portion of US Hwy 17 that runs through
>> > Craven
>> > Co.  A new bridge will be built over the Neuse River very near to the
>> > Swift
>> > Creek bridge that contributed to the flood at my  moms place.  In the
>> > environmental impact statement for the project it requires that the new
>> > bridge be built above grade (on pilings) for the entire span over the
> low
>> > lands and that the old roadway blocking the river low grounds be
> removed.
>> >
>> > I know that is more information than anyone wanted but once in a while 
>> > I
>> > have to get that off my chest.
>> >
>> > Charlie
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Gene Waugh Elgin, Illinois USA" <gwaugh at wowway.com>
>> > To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>> > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 9:48 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [AT] test, hurricane
>> >
>> >
>> >> Al, when I saw the following, MY mind went back to Hurricane Hazel,
>> >> 1954, if my mind serves me correctly!  We lived outside of Raleigh a
>> >> ways---Dad was a Dept Head at NCS College (at the time).  We were out
> in
>> >> the country; IIRC, it was about two weeks for power to be restored, 
>> >> and
>> >> longer than that for the phones.  We were very popular in the
>> >> neighborhood; we had an old dug well, while most had drilled wells.
>> >> Hard to use a bucket in them!!
>> >>
>> >> Gene
>> >> Elgin, Illinois USA
>> >>
>> >> Al Jones wrote:
>> >>> <...snip>  And you are right-- Raleigh learned about hurricanes the
> hard
>> >>> way.  They had a big mess after hurricane fran in 1996--I thought I
>> >>> could
>> >>> go back up there after the storm (I was still a student at NCSU at 
>> >>> the
>> >>> time) and enjoy such luxuries we didn't have after the storm at home,
>> >>> stuff
>> >>> such as running water, electricity, and air conditioning.  WRONG!
>> >>> Didn't
>> >>> take me long to figure out that DH Hill Library and a lot of other
>> >>> on-campus buildings had back up generators though.....
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Al
>> >>>
>> >>
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