[AT] test, hurricane

charlie hill charliehill at embarqmail.com
Sat Sep 6 07:59:48 PDT 2008


Hmmmm, that should say the house is open to the wind on all but the north 
side.  Guess my delete key got happy or something.

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "charlie hill" <chill8 at suddenlink.net>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: [AT] test, hurricane


> Hazel was in 54.  It is one of my earliest memories.  I had just turned 4
> years old.  Our house was nearly new, built in 51.  It is up on a hill, 
> well
> what we call a hill in Craven Co. NC., and is on all but the north side
> which is wooded.  I can remember lying on my parents bed and listening to
> the wind blow for what seemed like hours.  The rain was blowing in between
> the sashes on three year old double hung windows.   The next year  brought
> Diane and Ione which caused the biggest flood ever seen around our farm
> until Floyd came along in '99.  All of our neighbors were flooded out and
> most of them were either in our house or in our yard along with all of 
> their
> cars, trucks, tractors and animals.  Our house was still a good 7 feet or 
> so
> above flood level.  When Floyd came along in 99 the flood stopped 1" from
> the wood in foundation of the house.
>
> The difference was not so much because of the severity of the storms or 
> the
> amount of rain but because of NC Dept of Transportation.  In the years
> between 1955 and 1999 new roads were built in eastern NC.  Because of the
> terrain here many of them crossed swamp land bordering creeks and rivers.
> In those days they just filled in the swamp and only built a bridge over 
> the
> creek.  That effectively built a dam with a spillway the width of the 
> creek
> instead of the natural drain though the swamp that in many places is
> hundreds of feet up to miles wide.
>
> In the 99 flood water was rising an inch an hour  at my mom's house. 
> Three
> miles down stream on the creek there is a bridge for a road that did not
> exist in 55.  The water at that bridge was at road level on the up steam
> side and 3 feet below road level on the down stream side.
> Water was running through the bridge opening (nearly 100' long) like it 
> was
> running out of a pipe,  shooting out into the down stream area.
>
> They, NC DOT, know it but they don't like to talk about it.  A lot of you
> probably saw Bill Clinton visiting the historic freed slave town of
> Princeville NC that was completely wiped out in the 99 flood.  Princeville
> is just up steam of the newly built Hwy 64 freeway project that dams up
> miles of low land in the Tar River basin.  There is a project in the
> planning stages to 4 lane the portion of US Hwy 17 that runs through 
> Craven
> Co.  A new bridge will be built over the Neuse River very near to the 
> Swift
> Creek bridge that contributed to the flood at my  moms place.  In the
> environmental impact statement for the project it requires that the new
> bridge be built above grade (on pilings) for the entire span over the low
> lands and that the old roadway blocking the river low grounds be removed.
>
> I know that is more information than anyone wanted but once in a while I
> have to get that off my chest.
>
> Charlie
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gene Waugh Elgin, Illinois USA" <gwaugh at wowway.com>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 9:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [AT] test, hurricane
>
>
>> Al, when I saw the following, MY mind went back to Hurricane Hazel,
>> 1954, if my mind serves me correctly!  We lived outside of Raleigh a
>> ways---Dad was a Dept Head at NCS College (at the time).  We were out in
>> the country; IIRC, it was about two weeks for power to be restored, and
>> longer than that for the phones.  We were very popular in the
>> neighborhood; we had an old dug well, while most had drilled wells.
>> Hard to use a bucket in them!!
>>
>> Gene
>> Elgin, Illinois USA
>>
>> Al Jones wrote:
>>> <...snip>  And you are right-- Raleigh learned about hurricanes the hard
>>> way.  They had a big mess after hurricane fran in 1996--I thought I 
>>> could
>>> go back up there after the storm (I was still a student at NCSU at the
>>> time) and enjoy such luxuries we didn't have after the storm at home,
>>> stuff
>>> such as running water, electricity, and air conditioning.  WRONG! 
>>> Didn't
>>> take me long to figure out that DH Hill Library and a lot of other
>>> on-campus buildings had back up generators though.....
>>>
>>>
>>> Al
>>>
>>
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