[AT] Off topic Open Office PDF UPDATE Larry Goss

Fri Oct 24 14:51:02 PDT 2008

Actually, pdf files work about the best for transferring art files between
shops.  You can take a pdf file created in, say, Adobe Illustrator and
import it into Corel Draw and have it retain all of the editable
characteristics.  It works better than trying to import an Illustrator file
into Corel Draw, or open a cdr file that was exported by Illustrator.  It is
also a great way to move art files from a Mac OS to a Windows OS.  It really
has become the standard for portability in the graphics industry.  

Probably not information that you needed anyway, but it's free.

Phil
Courtland, MN

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Ah, but that's the point, guys.  You DO have the ability to generate PDF
files directly from all the current versions of word processing programs.
It is built-in to the Corel Word Perfect software and is a free add-on to
the Microsoft Word program.  I was asking about Open Office for my own
information to see if they had also kept up with "the other guys."  I didn't
bother checking the Microsoft Works program because it is such a strange
bundle that it doesn't even want to "talk to itself", so I dismissed it.
I'll do some checking tomorrow while I have some time at a genealogy seminar
to check on the flexibility of the PDF file generation in Word and Word
Perfect to see if any of the security switches that Adobe Acrobat has in it
are also available with the word processor routines.

What I'm trying to get is the ability to do bi-directional translation
across all combinations of word processor and PDF files.  It's coming close.
Adobe Acrobat claims they can only convert a file from PDF back to the
original word processor program that generated it.  I'm finding that the
program is more flexible than that, and that the translation can occur from
PDF to the word processor of your choice.  What I'll take the time to do
tomorrow is to check on the "back-translation" capabilities regardless of
the source of the PDF file.  One would hope that "all PDF files are created
equal" -- we'll see.

In case you're wondering what on earth this has to do with tractors, I've
spent a lot of "winter time" generating PDF files of tractor materials
(instuctions, owners manuals, brochures, etc) that are infinitely searchable
for what I call "digital archives".  There are many times when the
bi-directional translation of these files becomes necessary for making
corrections, adding notes, and other editing purposes.  That's what I'm
working toward.

Larry

----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil M. Vorwerk" <pvorwerk at newulmtel.net>
Date: Friday, October 24, 2008 15:17
Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic Open Office PDF UPDATE  Larry Goss
To: 'Antique tractor email discussion group' <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>

> You can create PDF files with Corel Draw, Adobe Illustrator, and 
> many other
> graphics or CAD packages.  But chances are you probably 
> don't have any of
> these programs either.....
> 
> Phil
> Courtland, MN
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Brad 
> GunnellsSent: October 24, 2008 1:23 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic Open Office PDF UPDATE Larry Goss
> 
> Unless you've paid money to acquire Adobe Acrobat Standard or 
> Adobe  
> Acrobat Professional you wouldn't have the ability to "create" 
> PDF  
> files. Most folks have probably downloaded the free Acrobat 
> Reader as  
> a way to open existing PDF files. I see now Adobe now allows you 
> to  
> create PDF file from Acrobat Reader through their website 
> but  
> requires a subscription to do that.
> 
> My guess is your ability to "create" PDF files comes from 
> Open  
> Office. Mac OS X incorporated the ability to create PDF files a 
> few  
> years ago. My guess is since PDF is such a widely accepted 
> standard  
> you will see more programs with that capability.
> 
> Brad
> 
> On Oct 24, 2008, at 12:09 PM, charlie hill wrote:
> 
> > Yep that is the way I see it.  It's also possible that 
> the PDF icon  
> > would
> > not even show up if I didn't have Acrobat on my computer.
> >
> > Charlie
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Larry Goss" <rlgoss at insightbb.com>
> > To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
> <at at lists.antique- 
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> > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 12:01 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AT] Off topic Open Office PDF UPDATE Larry Goss
> >
> >
> >> Thanks, Charlie.  It could be doing it either way, but 
> the fact  
> >> that the
> >> process is available one way or another is helpful.  I 
> guess the  
> >> only way
> >> we would know is if someone who has a barebones version of 
> Open  
> >> Office
> >> loaded on a computer with no Adobe Acrobat files would try 
> it.  My  
> >> guess
> >> is that no one has such a pristine computer available.
> >>
> >> Larry
> >>
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