[AT] respirators and Isocyanates (Urethane paint)

Terry Welch terry1955 at sbcglobal.net
Sat Mar 29 06:40:45 PDT 2008


No paint system is perfect. I did some work trying waterbase paint in field repairs for GM some time back. At that time all the lines had to be stainless steel because of corrison problems. I just painted a fuel tank on a Farmall M a couple of days ago and used paint fron Case-IH. They have refomulated the paint to be a faster drying and you do not get over spray all over like the old enamels use to do. I did us hardner and a approved mask. Not supplied air which would be nicer. But the mask did its job. I have to paint a hood on a Cat PL20 in a week or so and will use Nasson on it. I also have to paint a car for a barrel train. It will be Cat yellow.We will see what that enamel comes out like. 


----- Original Message ----
From: charlie hill <chill8 at suddenlink.net>
To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 9:07:47 AM
Subject: Re: [AT] respirators and Isocyanates (Urethane paint)

This whole issue is why I have started using water based acrylic paints on a 
lot of our industrial work (when I have the option to choose the paint). 
They are a bit different to work with but do nice work with NO VOC's 
(volitile organic compounds).  I don't know if these paints are available 
yet for automotive type applications.  I'm tempted to get some tinted to 
Persian Orange #1 and try it on some tractor parts.  I've used it on 
structural steel and it gives a very nice, slick, shiny finish and is very 
durable once it has a few days to cure but I'm not sure it's automotive 
quality in appearance.  The first time I used this stuff was over 15 years 
ago on the exterior surfaces of a steel construction package sewer plant.  I 
go by every now and then to take a look at it.  It's still slick and shiny.

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "George Willer" <gwill at gwill.net>
To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'" 
<at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] respirators and Isocyanates (Urethane paint)


> John,
>
> Take it from a guy with badly damaged lungs.  There is no reverse!  The
> catalyzed paints are best left to the professionals with their exotic
> equipment.  Those of us who are doing our own painting with less than
> perfect equipment can still get a nice job using the old standby paints 
> that
> don't require the dangerous additives.
>
> Some years ago I painted two identical tractors two weeks apart using IH
> dealer supplied paint... one with hardener and one without.  I can only 
> tell
> them apart now by the damaged (lifted) paint around the gas cap.  That's 
> the
> one with hardener.
>
> George Willer
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com [mailto:at-
>> bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of John Wilkens
>> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 3:19 PM
>> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> Subject: [AT] respirators and Isocyanates (Urethane paint)
>>
>> Thought it's about time I got serious about tractor painting and my
>> health!  Can anyone suggest an affordable air-supplied face
>> mask/hood that I could hook up to my air supply?  I'm starting to do
>> a lot more painting with catalyzed paint (mostly acrylic urethanes)
>> and I don't have a multi gazzillion dollar vented paint
>> booth.....just an empty wood shed.....until the weather get good
>> enough for outside painting.  The more I read about the nasty
>> isocyanates in paint catylists the more I think I'd better protect my
>> lungs!  Looking for ideas.      John W.
>>
>>                    In the wide-open spaces of NE Oregon
>>
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