[AT] Patching Rear Tire on Tractor?

Tue Jun 24 05:51:53 PDT 2008

There is a tire shop about 5-10 miles from here that does good work and is reasonable.  I had much rather unbolt the rim from the tractor/trailer/vehicle etc. and take it to them, or load the tractor on the trailer and take it to them if it's a rear tire, or even drive the tractor to them, than try to do it myself! 

Al

-----Original Message-----
>From: charlie hill <chill8 at suddenlink.net>
>Sent: Jun 24, 2008 7:28 AM
>To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>Subject: Re: [AT] Patching Rear Tire on Tractor?
>
>Will I'm pretty much the same as you.  I grew up in a service station that 
>my dad owned until I was 9 and then finished growing up helping him farm. 
>I've changed and patched my share of tires but now days I generally just 
>take them to the tire shop.  The hardest part of that is getting them in the 
>back of the truck or on the trailer.  I have a trailer that is low enough 
>that I can back it up to the tractor tire, jack up the tractor, unbolt the 
>tire and it will fall onto the trailer.
>
>I'm like you, I don't know why I never thought of using vise grips for a 
>stop on the bead.  Thanks for the tip Farmer but I don't think I'll be 
>needing it.  LOL
>
>Charlie
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: <william.neff.powell at comcast.net>
>To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 11:44 AM
>Subject: Re: [AT] Patching Rear Tire on Tractor?
>
>
>> Indiana,
>>
>> I have been changing tires since I can remember. Bike tires to start. 
>> Screw drivers to start. In high school (1980) in metal shop I forged some 
>> tire irons, one from 3/4 inch rod and another from a VW jack handle. Still 
>> have them and still use them. My grandfather ran a taxi business on Long 
>> Island and when he passed I asked for and got his tire changer, nice for 
>> front tractor tires. It will break the bead and spin the tire off the rim.
>>
>> But, the Rear tractor tires are tough, especially if they are full of 
>> calcium chloride. I'm just removing the liquid. I don't plow so I don't 
>> need the extra weight.
>>
>> Good idea on the vice grips as a stop, don't know why I never thought of 
>> that...
>>
>> The WD tire that went flat was one I was hoping that I would not have to 
>> do again. I removed it earlier, needle scraped and wire brushed it, then 
>> painted it... My goal when doing tractor repairs is to make them 
>> permanent. (wishful thinking)
>>
>> My D17 rear was a pain due to its mass.
>>
>> I have two on my WC that should be done to save the rims and two on a CA I 
>> picked up. Turned the CA tire stems up so they would stop leaking on my 
>> barn floor....
>>
>> Changing the tires is a physical job and a messy one if you still have the 
>> calcium in the tires.... Something I want to do but after doing one I get 
>> discouraged.... Maybe I have too many tractors...
>>
>> Looking forward to a successful tire repair while rim is still on the 
>> tractor.. Hope it saves me some time. Yes, agreed that tractor should be 
>> chocked and secure.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Will Powell
>>
>>
>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>> From: Indiana Robinson <robinson at svs.net>
>>> william.neff.powell at comcast.net wrote:
>>> > Hello,
>>> >
>>> > Had a great weekend with my WD. Made some extra $ mowing a field with 
>>> > the bush
>>> mower. Its nice when the tractor I spend so much time and money on can 
>>> help me
>>> make some extra $$$.
>>> >
>>> > Decided to tarp the tractor this morning and noticed that my left rear 
>>> > tire
>>> was flat.
>>> >
>>> > I had just fixed this tire about a year ago.
>>> >
>>> > Considering an attempt to remove the tube while the rim is still on the
>>> tractor? Has anyone done this? I know that professional tire services do 
>>> repair
>>> tractor tires while the rim is on because my father had it done on his
>>> tractor.....
>>> >
>>> > I do not have special tools, just tire irons and my small backhoe to 
>>> > break the
>>> bead. In this case the tire has already come off the bead.
>>> >
>>> > How do others repair their rear tires?
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> >
>>> > Will Powell
>>>
>>> >
>>> ==================================
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If the bead has broken you are 2/3rds done.   :-)
>>> The only reason I would ever take a rear rim off of a tractor would be
>>> to break the bead.
>>> I just use a tire hammer, about 3 tire irons (mostly just two) and at
>>> least 1 pair of large Vise-grips. The vise grips are used as a stop
>>> clamped on the rim. A "C" clamp will also work. I bought one of those
>>> heavy bead breaker tools with about a 5' long slide hammer handle at a
>>> garage sale last year but I have not used it yet.
>>> I have a tool I made a few years ago that mounts on my Farmall Super M's
>>> Speeco 3 point hitch (has down pressure) so I can lay the tire and rim
>>> flat on the ground and push the bead loose.
>>> I normally change my own and have done some for customers but not when I
>>> could get out of it...  :-)
>>> I even patched one on my MM-R at he Conner Prairie living history
>>> Country Fair event as a demonstration (had picked up a puncture) with a
>>> bunch of people standing around watching like it was the birth of a
>>> panda bear.   :-)   The pair of tires on that MM came off of George
>>> Willer's Case some years ago (thanks George, I still appreciate them),
>>> they were his "turf tires". For some reason he thought his Case needed
>>> taller tread.   :-)
>>> I'm waaaay behind and sometime this summer I need to change six 13.6 X
>>> 38" (or as close to that size as I can find) rears and remove one 12" X
>>> 24" from my Allis C and install a large thin boot at a spot I just
>>> noticed this spring. Obviously I won't be buying all new ones, OUCH!
>>> Maybe we should break the country into districts and start having tire
>>> changing parties.   :-)   We could probably manage to have them on the
>>> hottest day of the year and out where there is no shade.
>>> :-)
>>> As an after thought here, if the rim is rusty I always wire brush them,
>>> wash them down and paint them. I might leave the outside rusty but I
>>> like good paint inside.
>>> Block the tractor up, chock all of the other wheels and do not bleed on
>>> the tire, rim or tools.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>>
>>>
>>> "farmer"
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't mind being absent minded so bad if forgetfulness
>>> could just be a little more selective. Just last week I
>>> was saying so to "whats-her-name..."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hay & Straw Exchange (Buy it, sell it and trade it.)
>>> http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/HayandStrawExchange
>>>
>>>
>>> Francis Robinson
>>> Central Indiana, USA
>>> robinson at svs.net
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