[AT] quiet list-- ethonal

[charlie hill]

Just got my computer back up with a brand new hard drive.  Trying to catch
up with the conversation!  LOL

I am in the process of heat tracing and insulating a tank for biodiesel for
a local oil jobber.  Well his home office is local but, as I have recently
learned, he's a lot bigger fish than I thought he was.  Anyway, I had a
conversation with him last week about biodiesel and ethanol.  He says he
thinks that both of them will eventually become the fuel we use.  I told him
that with the energy it requires to make ethanol that I didn't understand
why they weren't building ethanol plants attached to other industrial plants
that have to get rid of waste heat.  He says that it is beginning to happen.
He also told me that the paper companies were working hard on making ethanol
from wood chips and that it isn't far from happening.

We'll see how it works out.

Charlie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Al Jones" <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] quiet list-- ethonal


> I think we as a society have been so used to the technology associated
with
> petroleum for so long, it is going to be hard for us to 'think outside the
> box.'  I don't think ethanol is a solution but maybe it's a step towards
> the solution.
>
> Al
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: <Edchainsaw at aol.com>
> > To: <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > Date: 2/22/2008 4:57:34 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AT] quiet list-- ethonal
> >
> > there is an  Ethanol plant  set to start   5miles  from me.    It does
> not
> > have to be transported in any  special  trailer at all.   Pipe lines
work
> the
> > best  but    therare not enough of those.   Railcars work  next best but
> there
> > are not enough of those either.
> > Yes it would be best if a refinery were next to the ethanol plant  but
> you
> > know  no new refineries are going to be built away from  the oil  (for
> > transport reasons)   same with  ethanol you dont built   it away from
the
> main
> > ingreadiant.    what would be  best    (I hate to say it)  would be  to
> build
> > ethanol plants  in texas near refineries  ----   ethanol plants that run
> not on
> > corn but on  cellulose ( I know it  sounds like a sellout).
> >
> > Now if we can get the railroads in  better operational  status  then
> everyone
> > could win from the situation.
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 2/22/2008 12:09:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > at-request at lists.antique-tractor.com writes:
> >
> >
> > Ralf  and others on this ethanol fling. Thay are building a plant to
> > turn it to  fuel[corn] not to far from me.[ Clearfield] 20-30 miles it
> > is in the high  millions to build and really out in the country. From
> > what little i have  read on this stuff it can't be piped must be
> > hauled in special trailers.  Don't make much sense to me unless they
> > build a oil  processing plant  near it.
> > But it is not what we think or know it is what gov says will  work?
> > R Fink
> >
> >
>
>
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