[AJD] The controversy

[Frank]

for one.my comments were certainly  not against two cyl mag nor any mag in
particular but then I don't have a clue what goes on in the other one either
JR......I don't get it

plus........I can read around the articles I don't want to read just like I 
read around those on here that I don't have an interest

Frank
gremaux at midrivers.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "I.I. Hobbs" <jrhobbs2004 at yahoo.com>
To: "Antique John Deere mailing list"
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Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: [AJD] The controversy


>I have to ask this question:  Why pick on Two-Cylinder?  I've not seen an
>issue of GM for some time, but I've been told that they have been running
>articles about NG tractors, and when I was there, we pretty much did
>everything on NG except the 3020 and 4020, which I refused to do because of
>a lack of information. So, why isn't there a hue and cry whenever GM does
>an article on a NG tractor, as I was given to understand they did in
>January?  I certainly didn't hear or see any complaints about that on the
>lists and message boards.
>
>  J.R. Hobbs
>
> Michael Scholl <buck69_hunter at hotmail.com> wrote:
>  Here's my 2-cents...
>
> The Number-Series and Styled-Letter-Series two-cylinder tractors are
> classics and the Unstyled tractors are antique. Since a large number of
> even the earliest of the new generation tractors are still in active use,
> they hardly qualify to be considered classic. My son-in-law has 5 tractors
> on the farm, two 4020's. The only tractor of his that I would consider a
> classic is his '52 Farmall H (which is also used on a daily basis)
>
> I have 3 green tractors, a '35 B (antique) and a '39 B (classic), the
> other
> is only 4 years old. One could argue that anything built in the 30's
> should
> be considered antique, but I feel that all Styled tractors should be
> grouped
> together. My '39 is on cut-off spokes and looks nearly as antique as my
> '35.
>
> In Minnesota (where I live), to have a Collector-Classic license plate on
> a
> car, the car cannot be newer than a 1948 model. I guess that I'm more of a
> purist, but following this rule I guess that all of the Letter-Series
> would
> be classics.
>
> Two-Cylinder Magazine should be about two-cylinder tractors, if NG's are
> included, the name should be changed to "Two-Cylinder and All Other Green
> Tractors Magazine"
>
> Cheers,
> Mike ;)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
> Bill Salisbury
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:05 AM
> To: Antique John Deere mailing list
> Subject: Re: [AJD] The controversy
>
> HI Troy,
>
> I don't have any experience with the new tractors. Mine is a 1956, one of
> the last of the 2 cylinder types and it is still running very well and it
> is
> probably the only one I will ever own. I know it will be running long
> after
> I am gone! Besides that, it sounds right!
>
> Bill
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Troy Bogdan"
> To: "Antique John Deere mailing list"
>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [AJD] The controversy
>
>
>> Don't worry Bill,
>> Those tractors from the modern era won't be around long enough to matter
>> .
>
>> .
>> . everything made in the last 20 years is junk.
>> Probably all end up melted down and sent to China, Troy
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Dean Vinson"
>> To: "'Antique John Deere mailing list'"
>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AJD] The controversy
>>
>>
>>> Bill wrote:
>>>
>>>> The only way, it was discovered, to allow the club
>>>> to grow was to accept the fact that the newer and
>>>> younger members identify with and enjoy the newer
>>>> engines and that someday they will be older too and
>>>> some more advanced types will take their place.
>>>
>>> Hi, Bill. Your comments were well put--thanks for the discussion.
>>>
>>> One thing I wonder about, is what the folks 30 years in the future will
>>> think of as classics. With any kind of technology it seems like there
>>> can
>>> really only be one "antique" period. A 4020 will never be an antique.
>>> Maybe there can be multiple classic periods, though.
>>>
>>> To me the -10 and -20 series New Generation tractors will always be the
>>> true
>>> "classic" Deeres, but I can see how some of the later models could be
>>> viewed
>>> the same way if you'd grown up around them. But I can't imagine tractors
>>> from the 90s or 2000s ever being seen as classics; to me they're just
>>> modern
>>> tractors and will always be modern tractors. If you're 10 or 15 years
>>> old
>>> today, will an 8430 be a classic 30 years from now?
>>>
>>> Dean Vinson
>>> Dayton, Ohio
>>> www.vinsonfarm.net
>>>
>>>
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