[AT] Trailers

Fri Feb 1 18:42:51 PST 2008

Thanks for all the replys. Does open new lights.
I know what you mean Paul on getting a CDL i am 67 had 3 heart 
attacks 2 open heart surgery. Had a CDL till first attack then did 
not even try to renew
My tractor Hauler was gross at 11,000 i had it dropped to 9000 That 
way i get licenses for $10.00 a year. so with my trailer at 10,000 i 
just may get by

R Fink.

At 04:37 PM 2/1/2008 -0500, you wrote:

>You got a 'common' sense officer, they can be rare at times.
>I can buy semi with air brakes, label it NOT FOR HIRE, hook onto my
>humongous RV or horse trailer with living quarters and be passed up by
>officers every where as long as I drive safe and obey traffic laws.  This
>really bugs me because I would like to have a bigger truck pulling RV's, I
>know how to drive and handle air brakes, but for me, as a 68 year old
>diabetic, to get a CDL would be a big job. Yet there are a bunch of 'hot
>shot' youngsters that have gone to 'school' and are driving big rigs that
>have no business driving them, BUT, they are legal hahaha
>
>Paul Waugh
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>From: "Louis" <louis at kellnet.com>
>To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'"
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>Subject: Re: [AT] Trailers
>
>
> >I have to disagree.  I had an F-450 (GVW 15,000lbs) and a Kiefer gooseneck
> > trailer (GVW 16,000).  In Ohio I was running under farm exemption,  I was
> > allowed to go within 150 miles of the farm without a CDL.  I cheated a
> > little and went to Iowa to pick up a John Deere R that I bought out there.
> > I got pulled over at the scales by Des Moines.  They red lighted me
> > because
> > I didn't have a DOT number on the truck.  Then they discovered that I
> > didn't
> > have a CDL.  I thought that I was going to jail that night.  The officer
> > kept me there for about in hour.  He called the Ohio State Highway Patrol,
> > to find out about CDL and farm tag regulations in Ohio.  I was ok with the
> > farm tags, but not with the CDL.  Anyways, the officer told me to get in
> > my
> > truck and not to come back to Iowa till I have a CDL.  I thanked him and
> > left.
> >
> > When I got back to Ohio, I got my CDL.  I grandfathered out of the driving
> > part of the test, because I was using the farm exemption previously.
> >
> > This is what I copied from Ohio revised code.  It makes no difference if
> > the
> > vehicle is commercial or private.  I think this applies pretty much across
> > the USA, since the states base their CDL law on federal regulation.
> >
> > Class A - any combination of vehicles with a combined gross vehicle weight
> > rating of twenty-six thousand one pounds or more, if the gross vehicle
> > weight rating of the vehicle or vehicles being towed is in excess of ten
> > thousand pounds.
> >
> > Class B - any single vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of
> > twenty-six thousand one pounds or more or any such vehicle towing a
> > vehicle
> > having a gross vehicle weight rating that is not in excess of ten thousand
> > pounds.
> >
> > Lou
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Ronald L. Cook
> > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 2:54 PM
> > To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > Subject: Re: [AT] Trailers
> >
> >
> > I really think the name of the license says it all.  CDL  Commercial
> > Drivers License.  I have had one for years.  I haul for hire.
> > Commercial operation.  You guys hauling tractors for hire?  If you are,
> > you actually need more than just a CDL.
> >
> > Ron Cook
> > Salix, IA
> >
> > CEE VILL wrote:
> >> Form tha Pa. CDL drivers manual:
> >>
> >> All Commercial Drivers? License applicants must pass a written test to
> >> demonstrate sufficient knowledge of the laws, rules, and regulations
> >> about the operation of the commercial vehicle or vehicles they intend
> >> to drive.
> >>
> >>
> >> Applicants who want to operate a Commercial Motor Vehicle is defined
> >> as follows:a. Has a gross combination weight rating of 26,001 pounds
> >> or more inclusive of a towed unit more than 10,000 pounds or
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> b. Has a gross vehicle weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more or c. Is
> >> designed to transport 16 or more passengers, including the driver; or
> >> d. Is of any size and is used in the transportation of materials found
> >> to be hazardous for the purpose of the Hazardous Material
> >> Transportation Act which require the motor vehicle to be placarded
> >> under the Hazardous Materials Regulations.
> >>
> >>
> >> I could read this to say the trailer can be more than 10,000 gross if
> >> the combinaton is still under 26,001.  It is possible for another
> >> paragraph elsewhere to add to or modify / clarify the above
> >> paragraph...???
> >>
> >> Charlie
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 07:20:05 -0800
> >>> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> >>> From: nancydick at pennswoods.net
> >>> Subject: [AT] Trailers
> >>>
> >>> Hi all i just heard that in PA if you want to pull a trailer over
> >>> 10,000 gross that you will need a CDL? any one else heard this may
> >>> make tough for hauling old tractors.
> >>> R Fink
> >>>
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