[AT] anti-freeze

[Bob McNitt]

The great thing about winter up here in the northern states is avid 
fishermen don't need a boat to fish anywhere on our ponds and lakes. They 
just need warm clothes and a sharp ice spud or auger.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "CEE VILL" <cvee60 at hotmail.com>
To: "new atislist" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] anti-freeze


>
> Hi all,
>
> I remember going with my Father to buy alcohol for $ .99 per gallon (bring 
> your own jug to fill) to use in his car for winter.  It was colored purple 
> so those who were inclined to drink it would know it was the poison kind, 
> not the drinking kind.  That was known as temporary anti freeze.  Due to 
> its low boiling point, one would have to have a low temperature thermostat 
> to prevent cooking it out.  I think the thermostat was around 140 deg. F. 
> The alcohol would definately boil out if left in until warm weather. 
> Permanent anti freeze was on the market (Zerex and Zerone and maybe 
> Prestone) but it cost $ 3.00 per gallon more or less. My Grandfather was 
> more progressive and used that in his car. I am guessing it was 1950 
> before my Dad saw the light on that one.  The tractors got drained.  That 
> usually ended up being my assignment around 10:00 PM when my Father 
> decided it might freeze that night.
>
> Charlie V in WNY
>
>
>
>> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:13:37 -0600
>> From: alfg at sasktel.ne
>> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> Subject: Re: [AT] anti-freeze
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "charliehill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
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>> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 7:07 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Ralph Goff CLOSE THE DOOR
>>
>>
>> > John my dad used to tell me about not being able to get anti-freeze 
>> > during
>> > WW II and folks putting kerosene in the cooling system.
>> >
>>
>> Charllie, my Dad also talked of using either diesel fuel or kerosene as
>> anti-freeze in his John Deere D way back in the fifties. I don't know if 
>> he
>> couldn't afford anti-freeze or if it wasn't available. It would have cost 
>> a
>> fair bit to fill up that big cooling system on the D so maybe he was 
>> trying
>> to avoid the cost. He did comment on at least one occasion when the
>> "anti-freeze" (kerosene) got so thick in the radiator that it stopped
>> circulating and actually overheated the engine.
>> This would likely have been in the early fifties before electricity came 
>> to
>> the rural areas so block heaters were not an option. No battery chargers
>> either so when the batteries wouldn't crank anymore it was time to grab 
>> that
>> big cast iron flywheel and try to start the tractor. I sometimes wonder 
>> how
>> they survived those winters. We have it pretty easy now even though we
>> complain about the cold.
>>
>> Ralph in Sask.
>>
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