[Farmall] International 460 Utility

[cvill]

Merry Christmas Eve, Mike.

Never thought you were for even a second, Mike.  I was referring to my 
first comment and trying to make it more clearly stated.  Your 
information was good.  I just didn't want my off hand comment about the 
Ford N to become the topic  rather than the 460U.  I guess it is my 
inept  method of steering the thread.   Monte's comeback Re: the 
computer was great.  I tend to usually think in basics first, probably 
due to my work background.  Often I think suggesting someone recheck the 
basics could be offensive to people,  but sometimes we make mistakes or 
overlook something, myself included.  When that happens I have to call 
myself dumb names the rest of the day.  I guess it is a parallel to 
Farmer's check the grounds comment which we have heard once or twice.

Charlie


Mike Sloane wrote:
> I wasn't criticizing Charlie, and I hope he didn't take offense. (and it 
> is real easy to make a mistake on some of the chain saws I have - the 
> bar oil and fuel tank fillers are right next to each other and only 
> marked with different color caps!)
>
>   As far as using Hy-tran, if you are going to flush your hydraulic 
> system out again, I would buy generic "tractor hydraulic fluid" at your 
> local auto parts or ag supply store - if it says somewhere on the 
> container "equivalent to Case IH Hy-Tran" it will work just fine and be 
> less expensive than "the real thing". I have been using NAPA's tractor 
> hydraulic fluid for years in a dozen different IH tractors with no ill 
> effects.
>
> Mike
>
> mstrating wrote:
>   
>> Charlie V, I understand why you asked about the oil I used. If the 
>> computer doesn't work the first question should be "Is it plugged in!"
>>
>> I appreciate the information. I used IH "HiTran"(?) purchased from my 
>> local Farm & Fleet farm store. I did work the cylinders in and out once 
>> but was afraid to run the pump any longer with the fluid drained. I will 
>> give it another try when weather is warmer. Maybe we will get a January 
>> thaw!
>>
>> Monte
>>
>> cvill wrote:
>>     
>>> Understood, Mike.  I was merely throwing out the question to the 
>>> original post on the long shot that the use of incorrect oil could be 
>>> the cause of the problem on the 460U rather than contaminated oil.  I 
>>> surely do not mean to insult the intelligence of the original poster, 
>>> but stranger things have happened.  One day I had a brain cramp and 
>>> filled the gas tank on a chain saw with chain oil.  Promptly realized 
>>> what I had done, dumped the tank and started over.  Whoze poifect??
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike Sloane wrote:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> In the case of the Ford N tractors, 90W oil is what they are supposed to 
>>>> have in the system. I suspect that 1. Ford never expected anyone to be 
>>>> using the three point hitch in sub-freezing weather and 2. the system is 
>>>>   based on 1930s technology, when high pressure hydraulics and light 
>>>> hydraulic oils were not in common use, certainly not for transmissions 
>>>> and final drives. This was true of IH tractors as well - the early "Lift 
>>>> All" systems in the H and M used 30W engine oil for hydraulic fluid, 
>>>> which was better but still pretty stiff in cold weather.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>>         
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