[Farmall] International 460 Utility

[E. John Puckett]

I have it somewhere, but not sure where.  Early liftall, H and M , used 
30 wt. non detergent oil.  In cold weather we would go to 20 wt.  As 
they became worn they got upped to 40 and 30 st. respectively.  A lot 
easier to get the odd weights 30 or 40 years ago.

Jim Becker wrote:
> I don't have anything handy to look it up, but I was thinking the early 
> Lift-All called out 20 weight oil.  I'm not sure you can even find that any 
> more.  You certainly can't find it easily.
>
> Jim Becker        jim.becker at verizon.net
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Sloane" <mikesloane at verizon.net>
> To: "Farmall/IHC mailing list" <farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 7:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [Farmall] International 460 Utility
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>   
>> In the case of the Ford N tractors, 90W oil is what they are supposed to
>> have in the system. I suspect that 1. Ford never expected anyone to be
>> using the three point hitch in sub-freezing weather and 2. the system is
>>  based on 1930s technology, when high pressure hydraulics and light
>> hydraulic oils were not in common use, certainly not for transmissions
>> and final drives. This was true of IH tractors as well - the early "Lift
>> All" systems in the H and M used 30W engine oil for hydraulic fluid,
>> which was better but still pretty stiff in cold weather.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> cvill wrote:
>>     
>>> Could we ask what oil was used for the refill.  Incorrect oil such as
>>> 90W gear oil could cause this same problem.  Case in point:  I have an
>>> 8N ford with 90W in the gear cases.   The 3 pt. hitch will do just as
>>> you describe.  The oil just gets too thick to pump.
>>>
>>> Charlie V.
>>>       
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