[AT] Autos-Was:refusing to replace old equipment-OT

[charliehill]

 Of course when it does decide to stop running it might take someone with a 
PhD to fix it.  LOL.

charlie
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From: "charliehill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
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> Cecil, that's nothing new for Ford.  A friend of mine had a 69 Fairlane GT
> with a factory 429 in it.  He had to unbolt the motor supports and jack 
> the
> engine up to change the plugs about every 3000 miles.  My 06 GMC truck has
> 91,000 miles on it and I haven't touched the plugs yet.  There's not a
> vacuum line on the engine anywhere and no points or even a distributor to
> fool with.
>
> Charlie
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> From: "Cecil Bearden" <crbearden at copper.net>
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>
>> Charlie:
>> I might agree with you on the reliability, but I can't on the ease of
>> working on them.  Ford keeps moving the engine further under the cowling
>>  so that you have to have a special topside creeper to change the spark
>> plugs.  They have individual coils that will go bad if the plugs are not
>>  just the very best $5 each ones you can find.  I have both Ford
>> Chevrolet and Chrysler from 95 to 2002, what I consider to be late
>> model.  Forget about working on that Dodge mini van. You have to pull
>> the engine down or raise the body up just to change the alternator...
>> Same thing with changing the back 3 spark plugs.  I got good mileage
>> with my 70's cars and trucks and they were just as reliable.  We are
>> paying for a lot of pollution controls and government controls that just
>> make big shots managers more money.
>>
>> One of my goals aftrer retirement was to have a shop to rebuild the
>> older trucks and tractors.  Parts for the industrial engines are so hard
>> to find that It looks like that dream is shot too...  Not all of my toys
>> are tractors.  Sending all our manufacturing overseas has created a
>> nation full of unserviceable junk...
>>
>> The younger folks I talk to just tell me that is the cost of doing
>> business...    Looks like that cost has put a lot of businesses out of
>> business...
>>
>> Cecil in OKla
>>
>> Bob McNitt wrote:
>>> Plenty of blame to go around regarding the mess with the Big Three auto
>>> makers. Top exec greed, corrupt politicians, and an overly greedy union.
>>>
>>> We'd all love to be making $45-50 an hour with cushy benefits, but what
>>> US
>>> employer can afford that these days? Obviously not GM, Ford or Chrysler.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Howard Weeks" <weeksh at wildblue.net>
>>> To: <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 7:36 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Autos-Was:refusing to replace old equipment
>>>
>>>
>>>> The auto makers (and the GOV as well) would rather we buy a new
>>>> vehicle every three or four years.  Lots of people do.  I understand
>>>> that some countries in Europe raise the taxes on them as they age.
>>>> At some point, you can't afford to keep driving them.
>>>>
>>>> Personally, I buy good used vehicles, maintain them, and drive them
>>>> until the wheels fall off.  My oldest PU, at the moment, is a 76 Chev
>>>> that is good for about any trip I may want to take in it.  Body rust
>>>> is eventually going to side line it.
>>>>
>>>> Nearly anything you buy these days is designed for the throw away
>>>> society.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 19 Dec 2008 at 10:24, charliehill wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Brad, I'm with you on the yes and no.  I don't have much problem with
>>>>> the
>>>>> way cars and trucks are made now.  They are for the most part a lot
>>>>> more
>>>>> reliable and in many instances easier to work on that say mid 80's
>>>>> cars.
>>>>> My complaint is with what they build and the restrictions placed on
>>>>> building
>>>>> them.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Howard Weeks
>>>> Harlem, GA
>>>> K5JCP
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