[AT] Autos-Was:refusing to replace old equipment

[Brad Gunnells]

Charlie, I can see where that could be a problem. The original post  
"appeared" to indicate that is was the design and maintenance  
procedures they were unhappy with.

It's too bad about the GTO. I really liked what Ford did to bring  
back the Mustang and Dodge with the Challenger. Now if I just had the  
funds to enjoy some of these reborn classics!

Brad

On Dec 19, 2008, at 9:24 AM, charliehill wrote:

> Brad, I'm with you on the yes and no.  I don't have much problem  
> with the
> way cars and trucks are made now.  They are for the most part a lot  
> more
> reliable and in many instances easier to work on that say mid 80's  
> cars.
> My complaint is with what they build and the restrictions placed on  
> building
> them.
>
> Here's an example.  When Pontiac brought back the "GTO" name plate  
> a few
> years ago what they actually did was re-badge an Australian built  
> Holden
> model.  They wanted to put a different hood on it with hood scoops  
> to make
> it look like a GTO but the gov't said no.  That would require  
> several years
> of testing and approvals.  Well Pontiac was trying to get the  
> little high
> performance yet economical coupe on the market to help with their  
> low sales
> and couldn't wait for the Gov't approvals for the hood so they put  
> it on the
> market looking every bit like every other little car on the street.  I
> didn't sell well and now they've done away with calling it a GTO.
>
> Charlie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brad Gunnells" <brad-gunnells at uiowa.edu>
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> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 10:08 AM
> Subject: [AT] Autos-Was:refusing to replace old equipment
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>
>> Well yes and no. Much of it is the way in which we assume the task
>> should be done. I can't speak for every make and model but some of
>> the newer vehicles I've had have been easier to work on than some of
>> the older ones.
>>
>> I've had to replace water pumps, alternators, brakes, shocks, and
>> some other "wear" type items on several late model Bonnevilles we've
>> owned. Those were all a piece of cake and mostly easier than some of
>> my experience with older vehicles. Did a front hub and axle shaft on
>> my '02 Super Duty 4x4, it was easier than my "79 F150 4x4 (which
>> needs those wheel joints again).
>>
>> Dropping a fuel tank for the pump doesn't sound as easy (I've never
>> done one so assumption here) as one bolted to the block. So I don't
>> know if a blanket statement that they are harder to work on is
>> entirely accurate.
>>
>> Now if only the parts prices would match that of some of our older
>> stuff.............
>>
>> Brad
>>
>> On Dec 19, 2008, at 9:11 AM, Richard Fink Sr wrote:
>>
>>> If they had to work on them there would not be any autos. From the
>>> design one can figure that they can;t drive or use common sense.
>>> R Fink
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> At 06:42 PM 12/18/2008 -0500, you wrote:
>>>> I agree on building the cars the old way. If these people that
>>>> design the
>>>> cars, had to work on them day in and day out, they would be built
>>>> allot
>>>> differently...
>>>
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