[Farmall] Farmall A Loader
Andy Wander
awander at verrex.com
Tue Dec 9 16:15:44 PST 2008
The pto issue may not be as bad as you think-one of my Cubs has a pto-driven hydraulic pump for the backhoe hydraulics. The pump is simply mounted under the platform, and a chain drive with the correct ratio gears is used to drive it from the pto shaft. The gear ratio brings the pto down to 540, while mounting the pump under the platform("inside" the chain) takes care of the reversal in direction.
[Andy Wander]
Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 12:24:06 -0500
From: Mike Sloane <mikesloane at verizon.net>
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I can tell you that the IH 1000 loader, with different mounting
hardware, fit both the Cub and the A/100 series. But I cannot tell you
about the Henderson. A bigger problem would be finding the special
hydraulic manifold that taps the hydraulic line - they are very
different on those two tractors. I suppose, with sufficient skill and
machine tools, you could make something. I have images of the 1000 on a
Cub and another of it mounted on a 140.
Mike
szabelsk at gdls.com wrote:
> Can anybody tell me if a loader from a Farmall A would fit on a Cub? It's
> made by Henderson, but I don't know what model.
>
> Carl Szabelski
>
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Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 13:45:26 -0500
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Mike,
Thanks for the reply. The loader comes with a PTO driven
pump/reservoir(?), so I image the hoses would connect to that. I'm going
to call the seller later today and try to find out more about the
hydraulic connections. I'm more concerned about bolting it to the Cub
itself. Don't want to get into adapters/bracketry and welding too much.
Also don't want to overstress anything on the Cub that's going to cause
grief later. He indicated that it's capable of lifting 200 lbs, but I
don't want to chance cracking any cast iron parts anywhere because the
weight doesn't get properly distributed (especially on the engine block).
200 pounds doesn't sound like a lot, but there's also the weight of the
unit itself to consider. I'm sure with the right kind of adapter plates
and such, I can make it work. Just wondering if anybody had first hand
knowledge.
Carl Szabelski
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Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 15:00:37 -0600
From: "E. John Puckett" <ejpuckett at centurytel.net>
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A cub pro turns ccw and at engine speed, compared to an A which turns cw
and is a 540 rpm pto, depending on engine speed, so there is a good
possibility the pump will not work.
szabelsk at gdls.com wrote:
> Mike,
>
> Thanks for the reply. The loader comes with a PTO driven
> pump/reservoir(?), so I image the hoses would connect to that. I'm going
> to call the seller later today and try to find out more about the
> hydraulic connections. I'm more concerned about bolting it to the Cub
> itself. Don't want to get into adapters/bracketry and welding too much.
> Also don't want to overstress anything on the Cub that's going to cause
> grief later. He indicated that it's capable of lifting 200 lbs, but I
> don't want to chance cracking any cast iron parts anywhere because the
> weight doesn't get properly distributed (especially on the engine block).
> 200 pounds doesn't sound like a lot, but there's also the weight of the
> unit itself to consider. I'm sure with the right kind of adapter plates
> and such, I can make it work. Just wondering if anybody had first hand
> knowledge.
>
> Carl Szabelski
>
>
>
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Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 16:20:48 -0500
From: Mike Sloane <mikesloane at verizon.net>
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Well, you have another problem putting it on a Cub, Carl - the Farmall A
has a standard 540 PTO, while the Cub uses a PTO that runs at engine
speed, in the opposite direction, and has a smaller diameter output shaft.
The biggest problem with putting a loader on a Cub isn't usually the
weight of the loader or the amount it will lift. The real problem is
running the bucket into something that doesn't want to move. That will
fold up a Cub like an old newspaper.
Mike
szabelsk at gdls.com wrote:
> Mike,
>
> Thanks for the reply. The loader comes with a PTO driven
> pump/reservoir(?), so I image the hoses would connect to that. I'm going
> to call the seller later today and try to find out more about the
> hydraulic connections. I'm more concerned about bolting it to the Cub
> itself. Don't want to get into adapters/bracketry and welding too much.
> Also don't want to overstress anything on the Cub that's going to cause
> grief later. He indicated that it's capable of lifting 200 lbs, but I
> don't want to chance cracking any cast iron parts anywhere because the
> weight doesn't get properly distributed (especially on the engine block).
> 200 pounds doesn't sound like a lot, but there's also the weight of the
> unit itself to consider. I'm sure with the right kind of adapter plates
> and such, I can make it work. Just wondering if anybody had first hand
> knowledge.
>
> Carl Szabelski
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Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 16:54:43 -0500
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John,
Thanks for the heads-up.
Carl Szabelski
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Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 17:02:43 -0500
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Well, that's something I don't even want to think about. My wife wouldn't
be too happy if she didn't have the Cub to cut grass in the summer.
Carl Szabelski
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Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 17:04:18 -0500
From: "Larry Dotson" <larrydotson at embarqmail.com>
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Carl, Mike
Rick Prentice of kubkraft.com (northern Ohio)has developed a set of supports
for each side of the Cub block to tie the front corner of the block to the
rear of the block. These are expertly produced and sell for $35.00 per side.
They have been in so much demand that he can't keep up with orders.
Larry Dotson
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Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 18:35:06 -0500
From: Mike Sloane <mikesloane at verizon.net>
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What a fantastic site - I am tempted to order one of everything as a
Christmas present from Mike to Mike. I deserve them. :-) (Maybe I will
just push for the SMV holder for now.)
Thanks, Larry!
Mike
Larry Dotson wrote:
> Carl, Mike
> Rick Prentice of kubkraft.com (northern Ohio)has developed a set of supports
> for each side of the Cub block to tie the front corner of the block to the
> rear of the block. These are expertly produced and sell for $35.00 per side.
> They have been in so much demand that he can't keep up with orders.
>
> Larry Dotson
>
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