[AT] Speaking of propane:-: Methane

CEE VILL cvee60 at hotmail.com
Tue Dec 9 10:34:03 PST 2008


Well stated, Charlie.  Volcanoes and other natural sources are of no value to the EPA.  No money there to tax.  

> From: charliehill at embarqmail.com
> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 10:19:48 -0500
> Subject: Re: [AT] Speaking of propane:-: Methane
> 
> Millions of cubic feet of methane bubble up from the bottom of the ocean 
> everyday and our gov't won't let us capture it.  Now they want to put a 
> catylitic convertor on a cows a$$.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Stephen Offiler" <soffiler at gmail.com>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 10:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [AT] Speaking of propane:-: Methane
> 
> 
> BINGO!
> 
> SO
> 
> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Frank <gremaux at midrivers.com> wrote:
> > Steve
> > All they need to do is catch the methane and burn it in cars........
> >
> > Frank
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Stephen Offiler" <soffiler at gmail.com>
> > To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
> > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 6:40 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AT] Speaking of propane:-: Methane
> >
> >
> >> While I completely agree that this is utterly insane, consider this:
> >>
> >> Methane is a powerful "greenhouse gas".  It is many times more potent
> >> than CO2 and all this "carbon footprint" crap we hear about
> >> constantly.  One of the most significant sources of methane is
> >> livestock.
> >>
> >> They're literally trying to discourage the raising of livestock by
> >> making it more expensive to do so.
> >>
> >> But as Mike Sloane said to me recently in private email, "there are no
> >> simple solutions to complex problems" and global warming is a VERY
> >> complex problem.
> >>
> >> Among all the various idiotic aspects of this, you've got no control
> >> over livestock anywhere else in the world.  Suddenly imported meat and
> >> dairy is cheaper.  And we send yet another industry overseas right
> >> behind Manufacturing.
> >>
> >> I am afraid, very afraid.
> >>
> >> Steve O.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 6:34 PM, CEE VILL <cvee60 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Please stop the world and let me off. I do not feel like I fit in the
> >>> Earth's society any more.  Read on if you wish.
> >>>
> >>>           "With the economy in bad shape and
> >>> the possibility of a deep recession looming, the Environmental
> >>> Protection Agency is proposing to levy new taxes—on cows and pigs,"
> >>> American Farm Bureau Federation Director of Regulatory Relations Rick
> >>> Krause told Wyoming Farm Bureau members at their annual meeting.
> >>> Krause spoke in Sheridan on Nov. 7. (Commonly referred to as a fart 
> >>> tax.)
> >>>            "This is no
> >>> laughing matter," Krause said.  "The cow tax and the pig tax are parts
> >>> of a larger scheme by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to
> >>> regulate greenhouse gases under the Clean Air Act."
> >>> "Under the proposal, if a state charged the "presumptive minimum rate"
> >>> from the EPA, the cow tax would be $175 per dairy cow, $87.50 per head
> >>> for beef cattle and a little more than $20 per pig," Krause explained.
> >>> (Clearly the regulators like steak better than milk.)
> >>> Could anyone name a few celebrities and congress persons who could
> >>> probably out gas a cow about two to one??How long will it be before
> >>> collector tractors come under the same attack??I guess a new tax will
> >>> prevent a cow from passing gas.  Holy cow.  Who could have guessed that.
> >>> The inmates really are running the asylum.Charlie V. in WNY
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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