[AT] Speaking of propane:-: Methane

Stephen Offiler soffiler at gmail.com
Tue Dec 9 07:15:22 PST 2008


BINGO!

SO

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Frank <gremaux at midrivers.com> wrote:
> Steve
> All they need to do is catch the methane and burn it in cars........
>
> Frank
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stephen Offiler" <soffiler at gmail.com>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 6:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [AT] Speaking of propane:-: Methane
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>
>> While I completely agree that this is utterly insane, consider this:
>>
>> Methane is a powerful "greenhouse gas".  It is many times more potent
>> than CO2 and all this "carbon footprint" crap we hear about
>> constantly.  One of the most significant sources of methane is
>> livestock.
>>
>> They're literally trying to discourage the raising of livestock by
>> making it more expensive to do so.
>>
>> But as Mike Sloane said to me recently in private email, "there are no
>> simple solutions to complex problems" and global warming is a VERY
>> complex problem.
>>
>> Among all the various idiotic aspects of this, you've got no control
>> over livestock anywhere else in the world.  Suddenly imported meat and
>> dairy is cheaper.  And we send yet another industry overseas right
>> behind Manufacturing.
>>
>> I am afraid, very afraid.
>>
>> Steve O.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 6:34 PM, CEE VILL <cvee60 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Please stop the world and let me off. I do not feel like I fit in the
>>> Earth's society any more.  Read on if you wish.
>>>
>>>           "With the economy in bad shape and
>>> the possibility of a deep recession looming, the Environmental
>>> Protection Agency is proposing to levy new taxes—on cows and pigs,"
>>> American Farm Bureau Federation Director of Regulatory Relations Rick
>>> Krause told Wyoming Farm Bureau members at their annual meeting.
>>> Krause spoke in Sheridan on Nov. 7. (Commonly referred to as a fart tax.)
>>>            "This is no
>>> laughing matter," Krause said.  "The cow tax and the pig tax are parts
>>> of a larger scheme by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to
>>> regulate greenhouse gases under the Clean Air Act."
>>> "Under the proposal, if a state charged the "presumptive minimum rate"
>>> from the EPA, the cow tax would be $175 per dairy cow, $87.50 per head
>>> for beef cattle and a little more than $20 per pig," Krause explained.
>>> (Clearly the regulators like steak better than milk.)
>>> Could anyone name a few celebrities and congress persons who could
>>> probably out gas a cow about two to one??How long will it be before
>>> collector tractors come under the same attack??I guess a new tax will
>>> prevent a cow from passing gas.  Holy cow.  Who could have guessed that.
>>> The inmates really are running the asylum.Charlie V. in WNY
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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