[AT] Speaking of propane:-: Methane

Rob Wilson rowilson at wildblue.net
Mon Dec 8 18:25:09 PST 2008


What I'm afraid of are the people that actually believe this malarkey. We
will soon regulate ourselves into extinction but boy the world will be here.
China has no intention of jeopardizing their economy to save the planet for
us. They say let the rest of the world save the planet they'll just keep
making money. One of these days they will cash in the chips we owe them and
we won't have to worry about it. 
Rob

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Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 8:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [AT] Speaking of propane:-: Methane

While I completely agree that this is utterly insane, consider this:

Methane is a powerful "greenhouse gas".  It is many times more potent than
CO2 and all this "carbon footprint" crap we hear about constantly.  One of
the most significant sources of methane is livestock.

They're literally trying to discourage the raising of livestock by making it
more expensive to do so.

But as Mike Sloane said to me recently in private email, "there are no
simple solutions to complex problems" and global warming is a VERY complex
problem.

Among all the various idiotic aspects of this, you've got no control over
livestock anywhere else in the world.  Suddenly imported meat and dairy is
cheaper.  And we send yet another industry overseas right behind
Manufacturing.

I am afraid, very afraid.

Steve O.


On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 6:34 PM, CEE VILL <cvee60 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Please stop the world and let me off. I do not feel like I fit in the
Earth's society any more.  Read on if you wish.
>
>           "With the economy in bad shape and the possibility of a deep 
> recession looming, the Environmental Protection Agency is proposing to 
> levy new taxes-on cows and pigs,"
> American Farm Bureau Federation Director of Regulatory Relations Rick 
> Krause told Wyoming Farm Bureau members at their annual meeting.
> Krause spoke in Sheridan on Nov. 7. (Commonly referred to as a fart tax.)
>            "This is no
> laughing matter," Krause said.  "The cow tax and the pig tax are parts 
> of a larger scheme by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to 
> regulate greenhouse gases under the Clean Air Act."
> "Under the proposal, if a state charged the "presumptive minimum rate"
> from the EPA, the cow tax would be $175 per dairy cow, $87.50 per head 
> for beef cattle and a little more than $20 per pig," Krause explained. 
> (Clearly the regulators like steak better than milk.) Could anyone 
> name a few celebrities and congress persons who could probably out gas 
> a cow about two to one??How long will it be before collector tractors 
> come under the same attack??I guess a new tax will prevent a cow from 
> passing gas.  Holy cow.  Who could have guessed that.  The inmates 
> really are running the asylum.Charlie V. in WNY
>
>
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