[AT] Thanksgiving Day tractor chores+trees

[Al Jones]

Will coyotes eat deer????  (Please, oh PLEASE say yes!)

Al



> [Original Message]
> From: <jahaze at aol.com>
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> Date: 12/2/2008 12:13:17 PM
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> Charlie,
>
> One thing the coyotees like to eat is foxes, give it a little time, the
fox population will start to decrease.
>
> Enjoy, Joe
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: charliehill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
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> Sent: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 7:56 am
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>
>
> Farmer, what do you think sounds worse, the sound a human hears when a 
> coyote howls or the sound a coyote hears when a human throws down on him 
> with a .223.  Hmmm I guess that's not a good question because the coyote 
> probably never hears the .223 unless you miss.
>
> We've got a few coyotes around here now.  The danged fox hunters actually 
> brought them in here for their dogs to chase in "fox pens".  Of course
they 
> got out.  The big problem here these days  is too many foxes and no 
> preditors to take care of them.  Rabbits and especially quail are getting
to 
> be scrarce around here becasue of the foxes.
>
> Charlie
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> From: "Indiana Robinson" <robinson46176 at gmail.com>
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>
> > One thing coyotes will eat is chickens. When we raised sheep I would
> > walk the fields daily and I would see coyote tracks in the snow all of
> > the time.
> > I did a lot of research on them and one thing that kept coming up was
> > that there are good coyotes and bad coyotes (much like dogs and
> > people) and if you had good coyotes (those that just ate little stuff)
> > then you should leave them alone. It was indicated that there will
> > always be a given number of coyotes per sq. mile in any area they
> > inhabit and if you kill off the coyotes you have more will take their
> > place and if you kill off good ones their spot may be taken by bad
> > ones. Of course if you have bad ones then you will want to get rid of
> > them in hopes that their spot will be taken by good ones.
> > While they are doing no harm here now all of that blood curdling
> > howling and carrying on at night can be pretty unnerving.
> > The problem we had here years ago was the crossing with dogs. The bad
> > ones were often coy-dogs. They had less fear of dogs and people both
> > and in some cases were more prone to vicious behavior. They also got a
> > lot bigger than the original coyotes. While the 
> originals were larger
> > than a fox they were smaller than many dogs. I have seen coy-dogs that
> > were as large as a large German Shepherd.
> > While I would never advocate sending kids out alone after dark many
> > things get blamed on coyotes just because they are there and a handy
> > scape-goat.
> > Some of it reminds me of years ago when a lot more people were getting
> > wood burning stoves. There was a big increase in house fires largely
> > due to careless or inexperienced users. The problem though was that
> > then wood stoves became a scape goat and a huge number of house fires
> > were blamed on wood stoves when it actually had nothing to do with the
> > fire but if there was a wood stove in the house it was listed as the
> > cause. Yes Virginia, while most firefighters are a fine bunch of
> > fellows there also some really stupid ones out there too. Ask any good
> > fireman, he can name at least one idiot on every department he has
> > ever worked with.
> > :-)
> > One local small department was called up on the carpet south of here
> > back then (1970s) for blaming a fire on a wood stove just because it
> > was there. It turned out that fire had very obviously started in a
> > wall 15' feet across the room from the stove in a wall outlet and the
> > home owner said that they had not had a fire in that stove for 3
> > weeks. Not only did the state fire marshal's office challenge the
> > little local departments silly findings, they did it publicly and in a
> > very chaste manner which was quite rare.
> > With coyotes it tends to be a case of hear a few coyotes and lose a
> > chicken so it must have been the coyotes. It may have been the
> > neighbors dog or a raccoon instead but nobody heard them making all of
> > those spooky noises.
> > :-)
> > Over population can be a problem with any wildlife and coyotes are no
> > exception. Numbers had kind of stabilized around here but I suspect
> > the numbers are creeping up again. It may become necessary to "thin"
> > their numbers again.
> > I think the white tail deer numbers are getting a little high again
> > now too. 
> The deer were very costly to me several years ago when their
> > numbers got too high and they pretty much ate one years corn profits
> > and then some.
> >
> >
> > --
> > "farmer"
> >
> > "Good clean muck never hurt nobody!!!"
> > Morris Moulterd
> >
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> >
> > Francis Robinson
> > Central Indiana USA
> > robinson46176 at gmail.com
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