[AT] Tractor hauler question.

Tue Aug 26 06:26:27 PDT 2008

That doesn't stop the computer from finding the code.

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cecil Bearden" <crbearden at copper.net>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: [AT] Tractor hauler question.

> that check engine light bulb can be removed on a lot of models.
> cecil in OKla
>
> charlie hill wrote:
>> Yep and that's probably about when I'll fix it, end of Nov. when I need a
>> new inspection sticker.  Actually I don't like having the check engine 
>> light
>> on and I don't like having a problem with the truck.  I just don't feel 
>> like
>> throwing parts at it until the problem goes away.
>>
>> Charlie
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Stephen Offiler" <soffiler at gmail.com>
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 8:00 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Tractor hauler question.
>>
>>
>>> Well, I figure my chainsaw and lawnmower and the gas cans that feed
>>> them are putting more evaporative emissions into the air than several
>>> hundred automobiles, so, yeah, I tend to agree with you about the lack
>>> of PRACTICAL ramifications.  If however your state has an emissions
>>> inspection program, typically you cannot pass if your Check Engine
>>> light is on for ANY reason.  (You already know this, just stating it
>>> for the record))
>>>
>>> Steve O.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 10:07 PM, charlie hill <chill8 at suddenlink.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Yes I'm aware that it's a very touchy system Steve.  I looked into it 
>>>> far
>>>> enough to realize that whatever is causing mine to set a code is not
>>>> really
>>>> negatively affecting my truck or the atmosphere for that matter so I
>>>> dropped
>>>> the ball until I have the time and inclination to dig into it.
>>>>
>>>> You are right, it has nothing to do with Farmers '83.  Farmer is a 
>>>> smart
>>>> man.  If I had been smart I'd have spent the money part of the money I
>>>> have
>>>> in this 06 on fixing up my 89 and I wouldn't have this problem either.
>>>>
>>>> Charlie
>>>>
>>>> Charlie
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Stephen Offiler" <soffiler at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 6:42 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Tractor hauler question.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Charlie, since the advent of OBD-II ('96 for passenger cars, a bit
>>>>> later in some states for trucks over 8500lb gross) the evap systems
>>>>> have become more and more complex and the leak tolerance tighter and
>>>>> tighter.  They rate leakage by the relative size of the opening that
>>>>> would cause such a leak.  Used to be .040" but went down to .020" and
>>>>> I *THINK* it's all the way down to .010" now.
>>>>>
>>>>> My point:  it takes very little leakage on the evap system of a modern
>>>>> vehicle to set a code.  Some have special codes for a gross leak that
>>>>> usually indicates the gas cap - my '03 Ford Focus actually has a
>>>>> separate light beside the "check engine" light that is used just for a
>>>>> loose gas cap.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, this has NOTHING to do with farmer's 83...
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve O.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 6:06 PM, charlie hill
>>>>> <charliehill at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> My 06 GMC is setting a code for the evaporative system sensor now.  I
>>>>>> haven't gotten around to figuring out what it is yet.  Could be
>>>>>> anything
>>>>>> from a bad gas cap to the canister to a filter or the sensor it's 
>>>>>> self.
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> forgot the # of the code it's setting.  I'll have to re-check it to
>>>>>> find
>>>>>> out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Bo" <mmc at suddenlink.net>
>>>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 5:52 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Tractor hauler question.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If I`m not mistaken , you probably have a charcol canister located
>>>>>>> under
>>>>>>> hood on left side ( drivers side )that is supposed to vent the tank 
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>> Most
>>>>>>> folks has a tendcy to overfill the tank , damagging the filter which
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> turn causes the vacumn line going to the tank return to suck raw gas
>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>> the engine .
>>>>>>> Pull off each line going to canister ( filter ) one at a time and
>>>>>>> check
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> see if it has raw gas in it . This usuall works best right after 
>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>> driven for 5 or 10 miles .
>>>>>>> My two cents worth.
>>>>>>> Bo Hinch
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---- Richard Fink Sr <nancydick at pennswoods.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> If it is 83 with carb. it will have a vent on the tank small hose
>>>>>>> comes up and hooks to the frame. Has a small cap like on it. That is
>>>>>>> what is on my 83 with duel tanks.
>>>>>>> R Fink
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At 11:27 AM 8/25/2008 -0400, you wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Farmer, is it a Carb or a throttle body injection? Fuel injection
>>>>>>>> often has presurized fuel tanks. If it is a carb, did the truck
>>>>>>>> come with a carb originally? I would tink that a carbureted engine
>>>>>>>> would use a fuel tank with a vent. Maybe the fuel system has been
>>>>>>>> altered since new. Also, make sure that the tank doesn't have a
>>>>>>>> vent that is clogged up. The vent may be in the cap or somewhere
>>>>>>>> else.> 11. Tractor hauler question. (Francis Robinson)> My old 1983
>>>>>>>> Ford F150 farm pickup (carbed 302 with auto/overdrive) that seldom
>>>>>>>> is driven more than a few miles at a time except when pulling the
>>>>>>>> gypsy wagon (usually hauling my CUB) uses a fair amount of fuel. Of
>>>>>>>> course even empty the gypsy wagon is a little like pulling a
>>>>>>>> parachute. The thing I noticed today was that it had a substantial
>>>>>>>> amount of pressure in the fuel tank when I stopped for gas today
>>>>>>>> coming home from Portland. I know that some of the later vehicles 
>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>> that but I thought that it was too old for that. I don't rec!
>>>>>>>> all my other 1983 (300-6) F150 ever doing that. I rarely stop for
>>>>>>>> gas on trips with it except at starting out for the day so I never
>>>>>>>> had occasion to notice it before. I was wondering if all of that
>>>>>>>> pressure was maybe pushing too much fuel past the float valve? It
>>>>>>>> seemed a lot higher than I had seen on other tanks with pressure
>>>>>>>> build-up. Is a high pressure normal on that age and configuration
>>>>>>>> or do I need a cap that is vented both directions? I'm!> not used
>>>>>>>> to this new fangled stuff... ;-)> farmer> > Francis Robinson>
>>>>>>>> Central Indiana USA> robinson46176 at hotmail.com
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