[AT] 1949 Case VAC is home.

[George Willer]

Steve,

Steve,

As you know, most Briggs engines will do a good day's work running much
slower than rated maximum.  I have one slightly modified to run at very slow
RPM, I'll guess less than 100 RPM.  More on that later.  Many engines had
6:1 gear reductions built in such as one I used for years on my mortar
mixer.  I imagine what Charlie is talking about is a conversion to make the
ground speed very low for a special purpose.

Our departed ATIS friend, Bob Learned's Briggs page is still available 10
years after his death at a permanent location:
http://www.asecc.com/data/briggs/   It's a wealth of information on the many
Briggs engine variations built over the years.

The slow engine referenced above is on a two seated butt buggy that's been
to Portland a few times.  It's just a rear engine mower with a very heavy
flywheel replacing the mower pulley and larger drive pulley on the vertical
shaft.  The slow put-put of the Briggs engine turns heads.  With its 3 speed
transmission it will easily out-run most golf carts.  The most fun is barely
moving along in 3rd gear.  It has a very unusual sound.

George

> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com [mailto:at-
> bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Offiler
> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 7:47 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] 1949 Case VAC is home.
> 
> Charlie, what was the purpose of the B&S?  Were they going for better
> fuel economy?  Those small engines usually run at 3600rpm so in
> itself, it would certainly not slow down the tractor, unless of course
> a reduction gearset was part of the mix.  Now however it's starting to
> sound a bit more complicated.  Thus I wonder why...
> 
> Steve O.
> 
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 11:21 PM, charlie hill
> <charliehill at embarqmail.com> wrote:
> > George,  years ago there were a fair number of cucumber farmers in this
> > area.  Many of them used a very low frame with seats on it for folks to
> ride
> > and pick the cucs.  Obviously they had to go very slow.  Some of them
> > accomplished the slow part by pulling it with JD's that had the engine
> > replaced with a Briggs and Stratton.
> >
> > At the time I just saw it as a curiosity and never bothered to go into
> the
> > field and look at one of the up close.  I don't have clue how it was
> hooked
> > up.  I'm not really up on JD's either but I think they were A's.
> >
> > Anyone else seen one rigged up like that?
> >
> > charlie
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "George Willer" <gwill at gwill.net>
> > To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'"
> > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 10:58 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AT] 1949 Case VAC is home.
> >
> >
> >> Don,
> >>
> >> Of all the tractors to re-power with some other engine, the F-12 would
> be
> >> among the easiest.  Converting to an in-line 6 cylinder would require
> >> lengthening the frame, etc. but even that would be fairly easy.
> >>
> >> Putting a V-8 in a JD A would require a bit more thought.  Removing the
> JD
> >> crank throws and replacing them with a ring gear and pinion... and
> keeping
> >> everything in line would be light years more difficult.  I imagine
> that's
> >> what you and your friend were planning?
> >>
> >> Another interesting conversion... A hit and miss powering a JD by
> running
> >> a
> >> belt from belt pulley to belt pulley.  The power went in through what
> >> should
> >> be the output!
> >>
> >> Keep in mind that these interesting conversions aren't required to be
> >> practical.  ;-)
> >>
> >> George
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com [mailto:at-
> >>> bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Don Bowen
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 10:29 PM
> >>> To: 'Antique tractor email discussion group'
> >>> Subject: Re: [AT] 1949 Case VAC is home.
> >>>
> >>> > Have you relocated to MO?
> >>>
> >>> At least for the summer months until my wife retires.  I get to play
> with
> >>> tractors here.
> >>>
> >>> > Some years ago, maybe 10 or so, there was a JD A or G with a V-8
> Jimmy
> >>> > diesel that sneaked in among our ATIS tractors at Portland
> >>>
> >>> I saw an F12 with a 454 at Vista.  I looked interesting but I do not
> >>> think
> >>> you could get very far into it before something broke.
> >>>
> >>> Don Bowen  KI6DIU
> >>> http://www.braingarage.com/Dons/Travels/journal/Journal.html
> >>>
> >>>
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