[AT] 2-cylinder clutch

Wed Aug 6 04:45:04 PDT 2008

Reminds me of two old men near where I grew up.  One had let his grandson 
drive his truck back in the field.  The two old me were sitting on the 
porch.  They could hear the boy in the truck.  The truck was going 
Varoooooooooom, room room, Varoooooooooom, room, room, Varooooooom.  The old 
man, agitated, said.
What's that boy doing?  The other old man said
"he's a double clutchin her".  Well the next day the truck broke down.  The 
old man was up at the store telling the boys about it and said.  "I DON'T 
know what that DOUBLE CLUTCHIN is but I KNOW it'll TEAR a TRUCK UP!"

( the way it was in Piney Neck, NC)

Charlie

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "CEE VILL" <cvee60 at hotmail.com>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 7:04 AM
Subject: Re: [AT] 2-cylinder clutch

>
> LOL.  Sounds like a whole lot of "clutching" going on at the Robinson 
> place.  Maybe even double clutching now and then.
>
> Off to a Steam / Tractor show.
>
> Charlie in WNY
>
>> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 06:11:42 -0400
>> From: robinson at svs.net
>> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> Subject: Re: [AT] 2-cylinder clutch
>>
>> Dean Vinson wrote:
>> > Dick Day wrote:
>> >
>> >>> I have heard that when parking a running JD 2-cylinder, you should
>> >>> always take it out of gear and engage the clutch.  I have also
>> >>> heard that the clutch should not be engaged when idling.
>> >
>> > Ron Haskell wrote:
>> >
>> >> When not moving for prolonged period of times the clutch should be
>> >> engaged so the belt pulley is turning with the crankshaft and not
>> >> causing wear on the brass bushing in the center of the pulley/clutch
>> >> assembly.
>> >
>> > I wonder if some of the confusion stems from the terminology itself. 
>> > On a foot-clutch tractor or a standard-transmission car, you "engage" 
>> > the brake by pushing in the brake pedal, so do you "engage" the clutch 
>> > by pushing in the clutch pedal?
>> >
>> > I've only operated a hand-clutch tractor a few times, not enough for it 
>> > to feel at all intuitive.  But if I think of it in terms of a 
>> > foot-clutch tractor it seems to make sense:  If I parked my Farmall M 
>> > with the engine running, I'd put it in neutral and let the clutch out. 
>> > So on a JD two-cylinder I'd want to conceptually do the same thing: 
>> > "let the clutch out", which I think would start the belt pulley turning 
>> > as Ron says.
>> >
>> > If "letting the clutch out" means the same thing as "engaging the 
>> > clutch," then life is good.  If not, you'd best be careful about 
>> > loaning me your old Poppin' Johnny.  :-)
>> >
>> > Dean Vinson
>> > Dayton, Ohio
>> > www.vinsonfarm.net
>>
>> ======================================
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Dean:
>>
>> I never "engage" the brakes. I always "apply" the brakes.   :-)
>> You "engage" the clutch when you connect the input shaft and the output
>> shaft so they turn as one. This is also (at least in the olden days)
>> known as "throwing in" the clutch. Sometimes placing the transmission in
>>   a gear is also called "throwing it in" gear.
>> "Throwing out" is used for disconnecting a hand clutch but not normally
>> a foot clutch. You "disengage" or "depress" a foot clutch.  Sometimes
>> you "yank out" a hand clutch. You can also sometimes "yank" a
>> transmission out of gear but I have also been known to "pop" a
>> transmission out of gear. Maybe that comes from the fact that most
>> transmissions are held in gear by "poppet" balls being pushed into holes
>> in the shift rails.   :-)   Some folks "kick" a transmission into or out
>> of gear.
>> In a tight location you must "slip" or "feather" the clutch...
>>
>> A John Deere hand clutch will normally "feather" very smoothly. That is
>> not the case (Case also used hand clutches a lot) with my MM-R hand
>> clutch. It is very jumpy (sensitive) and, according to a neighbor of my
>> uncle who bought it new, it always has been.
>>
>> I don't have it handy but I believe the owners manual for my 1948 John
>> Deere A says pretty much what Ron said.
>>
>> I became "engaged" to Diana about 46 years ago. We became married the
>> next year, we did not become "disengaged"...   :-)   We "clutched" hands
>> a lot and she wore the ring on her hand so I guess that was...   :-)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>>
>>
>> "farmer"
>>
>>
>> I wouldn't mind being absent minded so bad if forgetfulness
>> could just be a little more selective. Just last week I
>> was saying so to "whats-her-name..."
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>> Francis Robinson
>> Central Indiana, USA
>> robinson at svs.net
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