[AJD] Praising Jesus

[S.Sharkey]

Hello,

This is my husband's email list, but I just have to write and say...what a 
sweet email heading you have!
I smile every time I see your email come up on his tractor list!

Blessings to you
from Canada
s sharkey

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Praising Jesus" <1611kjb at gmail.com>
To: "'Antique John Deere mailing list'" 
<antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: [AJD] 5x6 bales


> You're welcome.
>
> Remember, packing density, moisture content and consistency of mix all
> heavily affect weight. Timothy Hay is lighter than Alfalfa. Orchard grass 
> is
> lighter than Timothy. In my field, I drill for 50% alfalfa, 30% Timothy 
> and
> the rest is orchard grass. It is quite heavy and I bale tight.
>
> The real answer to your question would depend on the type of loader 
> attached
> to the tractor and the type of power train driving it. You are talking
> 2-4,000 lbs that "never strained at all". There's not many pieces of
> equipment that could make that claim. To not strain at all would indicate
> you were lifting less than 50% of capacity. A loader that could lift 
> 4-8,000
> lbs would likely be in the 100-150 HP versions with huge castings and a
> serious balance problems (you'd have some mighty big wheel weights). This
> isn't exactly Big Bud,
>
> http://www.williamsbigbud.com/bigbud.htm
>
> but it is certainly out of the reach of most Antique JDs. Maybe a 4440 or 
> a
> 4455 could handle it. Chances are it would be more like a 4430 and it was
> straining a bit picking up a ton or two.
>
> The JD 563 and 673 loaders max out at 3,000 lbs (1400kg). The 583 and 683
> are about 4,500 lbs (2,000kg) and the 753 is about 5,000 lbs (2,200kg). 
> They
> would all be straining at 2-3,000 lbs.
>
> http://www.deere.com/servlet/com.deere.u90785.productcatalog.view.servlets.P
> rodCatProduct?tM=FR&pNbr=0843XW
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Praising Jesus,
>
> ---Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
> Gary Epps
> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 6:52 PM
> To: Antique John Deere mailing list
> Subject: Re: [AJD] 5x6 bales
>
> Thanks Mike,  that was an interesting read.  Here I thought a round bale 
> was
>
> just a round bale.
>
> Gary
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Praising Jesus" <1611kjb at gmail.com>
> To: "'Antique John Deere mailing list'"
> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 4:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [AJD] 5x6 bales
>
>
>> Well, depends on a lot. 5 x 6 isn't really a standard size. According to
>> Penn State University, a 5' diameter bale, 5' long weighs approximately
>> 1,000 lbs.
>>
>> http://www.age.psu.edu/extension/Factsheets/i/I112.pdf
>>
>> The University at Wisconsin calls the same bale 1,200 lbs:
>>
>> http://www.uwex.edu/ces/crops/uwforage/LRB_StorageCosts-FOF.htm
>>
>> There's a fella trying to patent a consistent method for determining
>> standard sizes and weight here:
>>
>> http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/5343670-claims.html
>>
>> Virginia Tech recognizes the variability and recommends round bales have 
>> a
>> density of at least 10 lbs. per cubic foot. So a 5' x 6' X Pi says it
>> should
>> be a minimum 940 lbs.
>>
>> http://www.ext.vt.edu/pubs/ageng/442-454/442-454.html
>>
>> So I guess you'll have to estimate.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Praising Jesus,
>>
>> ---Mike
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> [mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
>> Dave Ernst
>> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 8:46 AM
>> To: Antique John Deere mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [AJD] 5x6 bales
>>
>> Out in this part of the world, the largest bale is a 4 x 4, which in
>> alfalfa
>>
>> weighs approximately one ton.
>> Dave
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Dennis Cotton" <cottonfam at windstream.net>
>> To: "'Antique John Deere mailing list'"
>> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 5:02 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AJD] 5x6 bales
>>
>>
>>> Sorry about that, had my phone in my pocket and it replied without me...
>>> It
>>> really likes tractors and my wife for some reason... It keeps calling 
>>> her
>>> also..
>>>
>>>
>>> Dennis
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>> [mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of
>>> Gary Epps
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 11:38 PM
>>> To: Antique John Deere mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [AJD] 5x6 bales
>>>
>>> Dennis, Thank you for replying, but???  :-))
>>>
>>> Gary
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Dennis Cotton" <cottonfam at windstream.net>
>>> To: "Antique John Deere mailing list"
>>> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 10:43 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AJD] 5x6 bales
>>>
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