[AJD] 5x6 bales

[Praising Jesus]

You're welcome.

Remember, packing density, moisture content and consistency of mix all
heavily affect weight. Timothy Hay is lighter than Alfalfa. Orchard grass is
lighter than Timothy. In my field, I drill for 50% alfalfa, 30% Timothy and
the rest is orchard grass. It is quite heavy and I bale tight. 

The real answer to your question would depend on the type of loader attached
to the tractor and the type of power train driving it. You are talking
2-4,000 lbs that "never strained at all". There's not many pieces of
equipment that could make that claim. To not strain at all would indicate
you were lifting less than 50% of capacity. A loader that could lift 4-8,000
lbs would likely be in the 100-150 HP versions with huge castings and a
serious balance problems (you'd have some mighty big wheel weights). This
isn't exactly Big Bud,

http://www.williamsbigbud.com/bigbud.htm

but it is certainly out of the reach of most Antique JDs. Maybe a 4440 or a
4455 could handle it. Chances are it would be more like a 4430 and it was
straining a bit picking up a ton or two.

The JD 563 and 673 loaders max out at 3,000 lbs (1400kg). The 583 and 683
are about 4,500 lbs (2,000kg) and the 753 is about 5,000 lbs (2,200kg). They
would all be straining at 2-3,000 lbs.

http://www.deere.com/servlet/com.deere.u90785.productcatalog.view.servlets.P
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Praising Jesus,

---Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
[mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
Gary Epps
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 6:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [AJD] 5x6 bales

Thanks Mike,  that was an interesting read.  Here I thought a round bale was

just a round bale.

Gary
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> Well, depends on a lot. 5 x 6 isn't really a standard size. According to
> Penn State University, a 5' diameter bale, 5' long weighs approximately
> 1,000 lbs.
>
> http://www.age.psu.edu/extension/Factsheets/i/I112.pdf
>
> The University at Wisconsin calls the same bale 1,200 lbs:
>
> http://www.uwex.edu/ces/crops/uwforage/LRB_StorageCosts-FOF.htm
>
> There's a fella trying to patent a consistent method for determining
> standard sizes and weight here:
>
> http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/5343670-claims.html
>
> Virginia Tech recognizes the variability and recommends round bales have a
> density of at least 10 lbs. per cubic foot. So a 5' x 6' X Pi says it 
> should
> be a minimum 940 lbs.
>
> http://www.ext.vt.edu/pubs/ageng/442-454/442-454.html
>
> So I guess you'll have to estimate.
>
>
>
>
> Praising Jesus,
>
> ---Mike
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
> Dave Ernst
> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 8:46 AM
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> Subject: Re: [AJD] 5x6 bales
>
> Out in this part of the world, the largest bale is a 4 x 4, which in 
> alfalfa
>
> weighs approximately one ton.
> Dave
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dennis Cotton" <cottonfam at windstream.net>
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> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 5:02 AM
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>
>
>> Sorry about that, had my phone in my pocket and it replied without me...
>> It
>> really likes tractors and my wife for some reason... It keeps calling her
>> also..
>>
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> [mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
>> Gary Epps
>> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 11:38 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [AJD] 5x6 bales
>>
>> Dennis, Thank you for replying, but???  :-))
>>
>> Gary
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