[AT] Farmall B hydraulic

Mon Sep 10 19:29:21 PDT 2007

Sounds like I need to take a closer look at the burnt 140 at the local
salvage yard.
Mark

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Al Jones" <aljones at ncfreedom.net>
To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'"
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Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] Farmall B hydraulic

> You'll have to use the 140 torque tube also--and the implement mounting
> holes are "backwards between the two! ;)  Would be an interesting combo
> though.
>
> Al
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Mark Greer
> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:04 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Farmall B hydraulic
>
> I have toyed with the idea of putting together a "Super B" for a couple
> years now. I have a spare Touch Control  hydraulic unit from a Farmall
> 140
> sitting around and I've wanted a B or BN for a long time. Time will
> tell.......
> Mark
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Sloane" <mikesloane at verizon.net>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 1:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [AT] Farmall B hydraulic
>
>
> > I believe when they went from the 113 to the 123 they added the water
> > pump, thermostat, and a taller radiator, which required somewhat
> > different sheet metal. Since there never was a "Super B", You would
> have
> > to borrow the sheet metal from a Super A/C/100/200 series.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Al Jones wrote:
> > > The Super A and Farmall C were 113ci.  The Super C, 100, 130 etc.
> etc.
> > > were 123.
> > >
> > > IF you don't mind a "Frankenstein" you could get the engine, clutch
> > > housing, instrument panel, and hydraulic unit from a Super A, C,
> etc.
> > > Basically you would end up with a B transmission & rear end, a Super
> A
> > > midsection, and a B front end.  The Touch Control hydraulics on
> these
> > > tractors could then be plumbed for a remote valve for a grain drill,
> > > etc.  I am assuming all this stuff would bolt right up, since I am
> > > assuming, something will require "cutting and chopping" to fit!
> > >
> > > The live hydraulic pump on a Super M, etc. (it would have been an
> add-on
> > > on the M or H) is totally different and will not bolt up to the B
> block.
> > >
> > > I guess if you really wanted to go Rube Goldberg you could get the
> belly
> > > pump out of a H or M. It's self contained.  Plumb your remotes out
> of
> > > it, and fix it to drive off the PTO/belt pulley.  It won't be live
> > > hydraulics but you won't destroy the originality of your B like
> doing
> > > the major transplant I mentioned first.
> > >
> > > One more thought:  Somewhere I have seen an A/B with a hydraulic
> pump
> > > that was part of the generator. It attached directly to the back of
> it
> > > and supplied hydraulics for a cylinder.  I have no idea who made it.
> > >
> > > Al
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > > [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
> > > farmall36 at vci.net
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 11:34 AM
> > > To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > > Subject: Re: [AT] Farmall B hydraulic
> > >
> > > The A-B-C could be bought with or without hyd, the 113ci engine will
> fit
> > >
> > > where the 123ci engine is. They are Super abc if they have the 123
> > > engine,
> > > unless someone changed it. the H - M was the same way you either
> could
> > > get
> > > them with or without hyd until the last few years of mfg. And then
> they
> > > were
> > > supers that come with Hyd. The dist is the Same one from A-M even on
> > > Supers,, and I think that if you can afford the price it will work
> on an
> > >
> > > abchm and others
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: <pga2 at hot1.net>
> > > To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
> > > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 7:30 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [AT] Farmall B hydraulic
> > >
> > >
> > >> Cecil,
> > >> I think the B Farmalls had no hydraulics. The C, which replaced the
> B,
> > > had
> > >> the
> > >> hydraulics driven off of the drive system and mounted under the gas
> > > tank.
> > >> You
> > >> might be able to adapt C parts to do what you need. Another
> > > possibility is
> > >> the
> > >> pump from a Super M, which did mount between the dist. and timing
> > > gears.
> > >> Don't
> > >> know if this would work on a C113 though. Maybe a pump driven off
> of
> > > the
> > >> belt
> > >> pulley?
> > >>
> > >> Phil
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> >From    : Cecil Bearden <crbearden at copper.net>
> > >> Sent    : Sat, 01 Sep 2007 06:27:43 -0500
> > >> To      : Antique tractor email discussion group
> > >> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > >> Subject : Re: [AT] Farmall B hydraulic
> > >>
> > >> I brought home a Farmall B yesterday that has been flooded by the
> > > recent
> > >> Hurricane leftovers that hit our area.  It had about 3 ft of water
> > > over
> > >> the hood.  It was supposed to run before this happened.  It was in
> the
> > >> barn when this happened.  It was supposed to be complete, but when
> we
> > >> pulled it out of the barn the seat and air cleaner were missing.
> I
> > >> also noticed that it had been converted to 12 volt alternator
> system.
> > > I
> > >> have a belly mount sickle mower from an AC tractor that I think I
> can
> > >> mount on it...
> > >> I need to get a hydraulic system on it to pull the grain drill.
> Was
> > >> there a system that mounted a hydraulic pump between the
> distributor
> > > and
> > >> the engine for the B series??
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Cecil in OKla
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