[AT] Corn Binding/Hay

Sun Oct 14 13:52:34 PDT 2007

I should have realized you meant sugar beets.  No one grows them around 
here.  Beans is beans here too. LOL.  Around here if they are beans you eat 
you call them butter beans, snap beans, lima beans, string beans, etc.  When 
it comes to farming beans are soybeans which are my favorite crop to grow by 
the way.

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "George Willer" <gwill at gwill.net>
To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'" 
<at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] Corn Binding/Hay

> Charlie,
>
> In our part of the country beets mean sugar beets and beans mean soybeans.
> I keep forgetting that the terms aren't universal.  :-(
>
> Here's what I meant by a beet knife:
> http://www.knifecenter.com/knifecenter/ontario/images/on410b.jpg
>
> George Willer
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com [mailto:at-
>> bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Gene Waugh Elgin, 
>> Illinois
>> USA
>> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 2:18 PM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Corn Binding/Hay
>>
>> Charlie, is this what you had in mind?
>>
>> Gene Wuagh
>> Elgin, Illinois USA
>>
>> http://www.woodmanspal.com/testimonials.html
>>
>> charlie hill wrote:
>> > Hi George,  I don't know if I described it very well but if you've ever
>> seen
>> > a hunting knife with a "gut hook" on the back side it is similar to
>> that.
>> > Except that the "gut hook" part appears to be shaped so that you can
>> hook it
>> > around a stalk ect and cut it by pulling up.  I don't know much about
>> > raising beets.  We used to grow a few hills in the garden but harvested
>> them
>> > by hand.
>> >
>> > Charlie
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "George Willer" <gwill at gwill.net>
>> > To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'"
>> > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> > Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 11:18 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [AT] Corn Binding/Hay
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> Charlie,
>> >>
>> >> That sounds a bit like a beet knife if the rounded end you describe
>> would
>> >> spear the beet to pick it up.  They were used for hand topping the
>> plowed
>> >> out beets before the modern beet lifters were available.
>> >>
>> >> George Willer
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com [mailto:at-
>> >>> bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of charlie hill
>> >>> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 10:55 AM
>> >>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> >>> Subject: Re: [AT] Corn Binding/Hay
>> >>>
>> >>> I've seen some machettes that have a round notch cut in the back side
>> of
>> >>> the
>> >>> blade.  It's a slot about 1" wide cut at an angle into the blade with
>> a
>> >>> rounded, sharpened end.  I've often wondered what it's true intent
>> was.
>> >>> Could it be they were made for cutting corn or cane?
>> >>>
>> >>> Charlie
>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>> From: "George Willer" <gwill at gwill.net>
>> >>> To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'"
>> >>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> >>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 8:04 PM
>> >>> Subject: Re: [AT] Corn Binding/Hay
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> That mower section knife is like the one we used we used to cut the
>> >>>>
>> >>> twine
>> >>>
>> >>>> as
>> >>>> the bundles were fed into the shredder after we became modernized
>> with
>> >>>> a
>> >>>> binder, tractor, and corn shredder.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> When the corn was cut by hand it was with a straight knife somewhat
>> >>>> like
>> >>>> I still use for some chores around the yard.  It was a straight 
>> >>>> blade
>> >>>>
>> >>> with
>> >>>
>> >>>> no curve like a machete has.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> George Willer
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com [mailto:at-
>> >>>>> bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Steve W.
>> >>>>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 5:50 PM
>> >>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Corn Binding/Hay
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> And if you want the home made version take an old hoe handle and 
>> >>>>> saw
>> a
>> >>>>> slot on one end long enough to install a sickle bar section. 
>> >>>>> Install
>> >>>>>
>> >>> the
>> >>>
>> >>>>> section with it at an angle. I drilled the holes for mounting so
>> that
>> >>>>> one hole is close to each edge of the handle. You could also use a
>> >>>>>
>> >>> chunk
>> >>>
>> >>>>> of heavy wall conduit as the handle. To use just slide the handle
>> down
>> >>>>> the stalk till you hit the ground and give it a sharp yank up/back
>> to
>> >>>>> cut the stalk.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Larry D Goss wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> If you can find one, John, use a bona fide corn knife for the job
>> of
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>> hand
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> cutting rather than the machete-style knives that dealers are
>> >>>>>> selling
>> >>>>>> nowadays.  It makes all the difference in the world.  You may have
>> >>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>> haunt
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> a bunch of antique shops to find one, but a real corn knife looks
>> >>>>>>
>> >>> kind
>> >>>
>> >>>>> of
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> like either a miniature scythe or a hand sickle on steroids.  The
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>> forward
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> side of the knife is serrated and you don't have to swing it to
>> make
>> >>>>>>
>> >>> it
>> >>>
>> >>>>>> work.  You just put the knife down low (close to the root ball) 
>> >>>>>> and
>> >>>>>> pull
>> >>>>>> toward you at an angle.  It slices off the stalk clean as a
>> whistle.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>> You
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> know that it's time to sharpen the knife when you start pulling 
>> >>>>>> the
>> >>>>>> root
>> >>>>>> balls out of the ground.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Larry
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> Steve W.
>> >>>>> Near Cooperstown, New York
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