[AT] TD6 Trackloader timing problems. Where is TDC

[JTakemoto at wildblue.net]

Glad to help Charlie I learned that many years ago from a course I took on
automotive repair. sometime its the simple things that help.
J.


> That's a nice trick J.  I think you are saying the same thing that Gene
> Dotson posted but your way of writing down the firing order makes it easy
> to
> remember.
>
> Charlie
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>> its simple and this will work on any engine.
>> 1, write down firing order  (1342) Example.
>> 2.  then  move the last half of the numbers under the first half
>> 13
>> 42
>> This will let you know which cylinder is the opposite of the other.
>> #1 and #4 in this case turn engine until  # 4 rockers just change from
>> intake to exhaust as you move it back and forth. you will see those two
>> rockers moving in this fashion one up the other down, stop when they are
>> both at top of stroke. you are now at top dead center on number 1
>> cylinder. ready to fire.
>> J.
>>
>>
>>> I'm trying to resuscitate the gasoline starting system of my diesel IH
>>> TD6(which never worked, it just started on diesel directly) and have a
>>> bit of a problem.   I pulled the distributor to clean and do a tune up,
>>> and then went to install.   Hmmmm.   No TDC mark on the crankshaft
>>> pulley.  The Drott loader system mounts a hydraulic pump from the
>>> crankshaft pulley and apparently the crankshaft pulley is part of that
>>> system and isn't marked.
>>>
>>> So I opened the valve cover, and found TDC by monitoring the valves and
>>> spark plug hole.  After this, I found the distributor lugs oriented as
>>> I
>>> expected.  Setting the timing statically went as I expected too.  So I
>>> thought I was ready - but it doesn't start.   I get spark at the hole
>>> but I don't get a puff or a pop; even with starting fluid (WD40).  I
>>> think my timing is still off, but I can't think how since being off a
>>> whole phase would create noise in the exhaust (or fire in the carb O-:
>>> ).  Being off less would just result in failure to start, but it would
>>> still try give me noise.
>>>
>>> So I guess my question is:  With a typical 180 degree crank (when 1&4
>>> are at TDC, 2&3 are at BDC), how would you find TDC without marks???
>>>
>>> PS:  Not a flat head - Can't use the straw in the spark plug hole
>>> trick.
>>> PSS:   Because the gas-over-diesel design, removing the cylinder head
>>> is
>>> a pain and is not an option.
>>>
>>> Thanks an advance!
>>>
>>> Spencer Yost
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