[AT] Rust magic?

[charlie hill]

George,  I was thinking it might speed the process up with the washing soda 
in the water solution and the electrolysis pulling away the loose rust.  I 
don't know as I've never tried it on anything big like that.  Just a 
thought.

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "George Willer" <gwill at gwill.net>
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Subject: Re: [AT] Rust magic?


> Electrolysis is a wonderful tool that works "line of sight" from the anode
> and will do nothing more than a good soak on stuck parts.  It will take 
> the
> surface rust off, though.
>
> George Willer
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com [mailto:at-
>> bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of charlie hill
>> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 8:16 AM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Rust magic?
>>
>> John,  have you thought about  electrolysis?  I'm not sure that's the 
>> best
>> way but it's faster than waiting for it to soak.
>>
>> Charlie
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>> From: "JParks" <jkparks at flash.net>
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-
>> tractor.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 8:01 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Rust magic?
>>
>>
>> > Thanks to all for the quick responses.  I checked the web links
>> provided,
>> > and more, found some forums who had discussed this problem (not
>> > specifically
>> > like some of you who had direct experiences with track).
>> >
>> > I r-e-a-l-l-y like the water idea!  (cheap!)
>> > My next step will be to fill a large loader bucket with water, after
>> > pressure washing the track of course, and let them soak.  Since I have
>> > access to a bucket this size, this would eliminate my concern about 
>> > silt
>> > from a pond.  Here is where my patience will be tested.  Can I leave
>> them
>> > alone for a couple of weeks without checking on progress?  Being the
>> > sometime impatient person I am, I want magic to work faster.  If this 
>> > is
>> > not
>> > totally satisfactory, I may then replace the water with a 10% solution
>> of
>> > phosphoric acid as a second attempt.
>> >
>> > If a 3rd attempt is required, I might try the molasses solution.  That
>> > kind
>> > of makes sense too.
>> >
>> > I will let you all know the results!
>> >
>> > Thanks again
>> >
>> > John Parks
>> > Boise, Idaho
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Larry D Goss" <rlgoss at evansville.net>
>> > To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
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>> > Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 12:46 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [AT] Rust magic?
>> >
>> >
>> >> The commercial product I have seen for this purpose uses beet sugar
>> > molasses
>> >> mixed with water.  I think it's called "Rustbeeter".
>> >>
>> >> Larry
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Mike" <msm10301 at juno.com>
>> >> To: <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> >> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 9:14 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: [AT] Rust magic?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > What about water mixed with molasses? Someone posted a while ago
>> >> > about how this mixture would remove rust from an old engine block.
>> >> > Mike
>> >> >
>> >> > -- "JParks" <jkparks at flash.net> wrote:
>> >> > I am looking for any suggestions or recommendations for a real rust
>> >> > buster.
>> >> >
>> >> > I have two sets of almost new TD6 track that sat on a machine for
>> >> > years and
>> >> > all the joints were either really stiff or frozen.
>> >> >
>> >> > I have soaked all the joints w/ diesel, driven over them several
>> >> > times with
>> >> > wheel loaders and even a track loader.  I presoaked them again with
>> >> > diesel
>> >> > and with the use of an excavator boom to hold each link down in
>> >> > sequence,
>> >> > and using the curl linkage, I hooked up to each link and was able to
>> >> > work
>> >> > each joint back and forth a little before moving down the chain to
>> >> > the next
>> >> > link.  It is still too tight!
>> >> >
>> >> > I talked to an old (like me) crawler man who has run a track shop 
>> >> > for
>> >> > decades (and he has "seen-it-all") and he does not think I should 
>> >> > set
>> >> > them
>> >> > on fire.  He has run across track like this before and he could not
>> >> > even
>> >> > dismantle them without ruining or busting some of the individual
>> >> > links.
>> >> >
>> >> > What liquid rust breaker on the market will really work (vs. what is
>> >> > simply
>> >> > marketed and does not work)!?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks for any help.
>> >> >
>> >> > John Parks
>> >> > Boise, ID
>> >> >
>> >> >
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