[AT] 560 starter short

[Cecil Bearden]

Kevin:  that starter sounds like a delco.  they have 3 lengths of 
solenoids, but the long one was the one used on tractors and industrial 
equipment.  A auto parts house should have one for no more than $15...  
I pay about $4 for them in a quantity order.  I have one here on my 
backhoe that the bakelite cracked and it has to be kicked in about 4 
times before it works.   You can take the 2 screws that hold the 
solenoid to the starter, and also the screw that holds the copper lead 
from the starter motor off and also the cables and wires, then rotate 
the solenoid 90 deg and remove it.  replacement is the same as removal, 
and remember to put the spring back in...  

A note on the foot.  If you try an anti-inflammatory such as ibuprofen 
with the pain killers, it makes the pain killer work about 10 times as 
good...  That is what I do with my back to be able to function.....

If you get into any trouble call me at 405-641-8547  cellular

Cecil in OKla

mopr 340 wrote:
>   Yes it is gas, lost a LOT of power going from the 301 diesel to 221 gas. 
> But what good is a tractor if it takes another tractor to get it running ?  
> Anyways it is the same starter that was on the diesel.
> And I never thought about the wires, what I will do is run a jumper from 
> selenoid to switch and see if that cures the problem. Something keeps 
> telling me its in the selenoid or starter ? Since it ended up with the old 
> sel on it anyways, the starter man has gotten on the rocks real bad and 
> tightened the scews so tight that the bakelite (sp) just fell apart he 
> overtighten the screws. So I figure that I need to fix my stuff at home 
> instead of paying someone to get hi and ending up with the same thing I 
> started with.
> The FOOT hey dont mash your feet ! This has been the worst thing I have ever 
> had to deal with.
> The DR said to do what I wanted, so I get a pillow cover and duct tape it 
> over my foot then tape a sandal on. I got out and actually worked for a 
> couple days. That made the foot and leg swell up big time, the nurse come by 
> to drop off supplies and check it out. Wow to make a long story short I 
> ended up going to my regular DR who said blood clot. So off to the hospital 
> for a ultrasound of the whole leg 4 hours later said ok no blood clot and 
> not to do anything at all.  Well I still do a little Dr said it will never 
> quit hurting and wrote a scrtpt for 120 pain pills that cost 200 bucks.
> Along with some other nerve pills that are supposed to ease nerve pain + 
> some sleeping pills.
> Anyways I can walk and push the clutch ok, so I am doing ok. Just have to be 
> careful not to drop anything on it.
> Kevin Mosier
>
>
>   
>> From: "CEE VILL" <cvee60 at hotmail.com>
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>> Subject: Re: [AT] 560 starter short
>> Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 20:50:43 -0400
>>
>> Kevin,
>>
>> I think I remember your 560 is gas.  If so, a wire runs from the S terminal 
>> on the solenoid to the coil (I think).  This wire supplies 12 V to the coil 
>> only while the  starter button is pushed.  (Start on 12V, run on 6V).  
>> Check this line over carefully for a bare spot that would short.  Since it 
>> works O.K. when you jump the solenoid, I would also take a careful look at 
>> that mess of spaghetti wires under the dash for a  short in the wires to 
>> the starter button.
>>
>> Good luck.  Hope the foot is getting well.
>>
>> Charlie V.
>>
>>
>>     
>>> From: "mopr 340" <mopr340 at hotmail.com>
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>>> Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:41:11 -0500
>>>
>>>
>>> I have a question about our 560  Last year I took the starter to the local
>>> auto electric man.
>>> And he FIXEd it for I think 50 bucks, what was wrong with it was he said
>>> selenoid.
>>> What it was doing is, some times when you push the starter button it would
>>> peg the ammeter to discharge. So the only way to start it would be to 
>>> cross
>>> it out at the selenoid on the starter and it would hit right off.  Well it
>>> has returned to its old ways and I cant afford to be 50 buckin it again so
>>> soon. Any ideas on just what is going on ? And how to fix it at home ?
>>> Thanks
>>> Kevin Mosier
>>>       
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