[AT] OT: Gas story
Ed Stewart
edstewart1 at verizon.net
Sun Jul 8 12:35:28 PDT 2007
I just love the humorous reading in this group, I am glad I ain't a
cranky old fart!!!!:-). Seriously, It is the opinions of everybody that
make this group the best. Ed
captneb wrote:
> George, you are to logic what Cirque de Soleil is to acrobatics.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George Willer" <gwill at gwill.net>
> To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'"
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 12:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [AT] OT: Gas story
>
>
>
>> Rog,
>>
>> Are you STILL pissed off that Reagan beat the peanut farmer out of a
>>
> second
>
>> term?
>>
>> George
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com [mailto:at-
>>> bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of captneb
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 11:57 AM
>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] OT: Gas story
>>>
>>> Is it really a good idea to quote the wisdom of an Alzheimer's patient,
>>> George? You confirm our suspicions about your sources.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "George Willer" <gwill at gwill.net>
>>> To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'"
>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 8:43 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] OT: Gas story
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Another quote on a slightly different topic that nearly fits here:
>>>>
>>>> "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant;
>>>>
> it's
>
>>>> just that they know so much that isn't so."
>>>>
>>>> - Ronald Reagan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com [mailto:at-
>>>>> bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Al Jones
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 9:24 AM
>>>>> To: 'Antique tractor email discussion group'
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] OT: Gas story
>>>>>
>>>>> I saved this from an earlier thread, it is such good advice I held
>>>>>
>>> onto
>>>
>>>>> it:
>>>>>
>>>>> Two secrets to live by:
>>>>> 1. Whenever you're wrong, admit it,
>>>>> 2. Whenever you're right, shut up.
>>>>>
>>>>> Either way this topic has run its course. Pick #1 or #2 above and
>>>>>
> let
>
>>>>> it rest.
>>>>>
>>>>> Al
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>>> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
>>>>> RonMyers at wildblue.net
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 1:27 AM
>>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] OT: Gas story
>>>>>
>>>>> If I'm such an Idiot them why do these experts agree with what I
>>>>>
> have
>
>>>>> said.
>>>>>
>>>>> RON
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Ground temperatures
>>>>>
>>>>> At depths below four feet, ground temperature stays a constant 50 to
>>>>>
>>> 55
>>>
>>>>> degrees Fahrenheit year-round.
>>>>>
>>>>> During the winter, a geothermal system absorbs this extra heat from
>>>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>>> earth and transfers it into your home. During the summer, the system
>>>>> takes
>>>>> heat from indoors and moves it back underground.
>>>>>
>>>>> Annual air temperature, moisture content, soil type and vegetative
>>>>>
>>> cover
>>>
>>>>> (i.e., trees and plants) all have an effect on underground soil
>>>>> temperature.
>>>>>
>>>>> As you might expect, the earth's temperature changes in response to
>>>>> weather changes, but there is less change at greater depths.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Geothermal - ground temperatures
>>>>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can't we all just get along?
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At 12:37 AM 7/5/2007, you wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sometimes I wonder... would this list be totally quiet if Walt
>>>>>>>
> never
>
>>>>>>> existed? ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mattias
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2007/7/5, charlie hill <chill8 at suddenlink.net>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ken, Walt DOES think the world is flat. That's why no one can
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> explain
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> anything else to him.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Ken Knierim" <ken.knierim at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 9:33 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] OT: Gas story
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ron,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Average ground temp in central Arizona is over 80 degrees and
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> higher
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> than that right now. Outside temp is better than 115 degrees
>>>>>>>>>
> as
>
>>> I
>>>
>>>>>>> type
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> this. Pumps are calibrated at 60 degrees according to federal
>>>>>>>>> standards but the ground doesn't care; no temp regulation
>>>>>>>>>
>>> exists.
>>>
>>>>>>>>> Solids, liquids and gases usually expand when heated, right?
>>>>>>>>>
> Do
>
>>>>> you
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> THINK there might be a LITTLE expansion in the fuel with that
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> kind
>>>>>
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> heat? Do you know the coefficient of expansion for
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> petrochemicals
>>>>>
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> more specifically, gasoline? Some quick research shows it's
>>>>>>>>>
>>> close
>>>
>>>>> to
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 4X that of mercury:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>> http://dev.physicslab.org/Document.aspx?doctype=3&filename=ThermalPhysic
>>>
>>>>> s_ThermalExpansion.xml
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> With all due respect, there IS a difference due to
>>>>>>>>>
> temperature.
>
>>>>> Now
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> whether you'll notice it with a vehicle is another story, but
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> claiming
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> it doesn't exist is like saying the earth is flat. You might
>>>>>>>>>
>>> not
>>>
>>>>> be
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> able to see it (or electrons, for that matter) but claiming
>>>>>>>>>
>>> it's
>>>
>>>>>>> bull
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> isn't very open-minded.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ken in AZ
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 7/4/07, RonMyers at wildblue.net <RonMyers at wildblue.net>
>>>>>>>>>
> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>>> George,
>>>>>>>>>> The temperature at the point where the underground tanks are
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> stored
>>>>>
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> average 55 deg. No matter what part of the country that you
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> live
>>>>>
>>>>>>> in.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> North south east or west . this is set by the government
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> regulations.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> it really doesn't matter where you get it from.
>>>>>>>>>> In almost all states the meters on the pumps are tested to
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> guarantee
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>> accuracy so this whole bunch of Bull is just that a bunch of
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> Bull.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You a full gallon of gas at each station or the government
>>>>>>>>>>
>>> will
>>>
>>>>>>> come
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> down
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> hard on the owners.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ron
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Some folks completely miss the point. It's the
>>>>>>>>>>>
> temperature
>
>>> of
>>>
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> gas
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>> it's metered through the gas pump at the station that
>>>>>>>>>>>
> makes
>
>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> difference.
>>>>>>>>>>> The gas that's expanded because it's warmer when it's
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> measured
>>>
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> sold
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> the point. You're paying for slightly more than you're
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> actually
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> getting.
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> doubt the difference that's claimed is as large as stated,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> but
>>>
>>>>>>>> there's
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> difference anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> George Willer
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] OT: Gas story
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> When you put the cold fuel in your hot tank sitting in
>>>>>>>>>>>>
> the
>
>>>>> sun
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> alongside
>>>>>>>>>>>> the Mack doesn't it get warmer.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't believe that anybody would believe that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> temperature
>>>>>
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> fuel would make difference. If its gasoline its preheated
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> before
>>>>>
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> into the Carb. If its diesel it preheated in the manifold
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> same
>>>>>
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> fuel
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> injected cars.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ron
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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