[AT] OT: Gas story

Sun Jul 8 12:06:14 PDT 2007

Sorry, Rog,

I still don't know why you're still pissed off about the greatest President
of the last century beating your useless twit hero, Jimmy out of his second
term.

Our opinions may differ, but they still should have some basis in fact.

Your specialty is humor, but mine is really logic and fact.  I won't even
attempt humor.  You should try serious logic instead of humor.  Then maybe
you'll appreciate what might have (or not) been.  :-(

George  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com [mailto:at-
> bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of captneb
> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 2:21 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] OT: Gas story
> 
> George, you are to logic what Cirque de Soleil is to acrobatics.
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George Willer" <gwill at gwill.net>
> To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'"
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 12:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [AT] OT: Gas story
> 
> 
> > Rog,
> >
> > Are you STILL pissed off that Reagan beat the peanut farmer out of a
> second
> > term?
> >
> > George
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com [mailto:at-
> > > bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of captneb
> > > Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 11:57 AM
> > > To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > > Subject: Re: [AT] OT: Gas story
> > >
> > > Is it really a good idea to quote the wisdom of an Alzheimer's
> patient,
> > > George?  You confirm our suspicions about your sources.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "George Willer" <gwill at gwill.net>
> > > To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'"
> > > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 8:43 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [AT] OT: Gas story
> > >
> > >
> > > > Another quote on a slightly different topic that nearly fits here:
> > > >
> > > > "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant;
> it's
> > > > just that they know so much that isn't so."
> > > >
> > > > - Ronald Reagan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com [mailto:at-
> > > > > bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Al Jones
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 9:24 AM
> > > > > To: 'Antique tractor email discussion group'
> > > > > Subject: Re: [AT] OT: Gas story
> > > > >
> > > > > I saved this from an earlier thread, it is such good advice I held
> > > onto
> > > > > it:
> > > > >
> > > > > Two secrets to live by:
> > > > >  1. Whenever you're wrong, admit it,
> > > > >  2. Whenever you're right, shut up.
> > > > >
> > > > > Either way this topic has run its course.  Pick #1 or #2 above and
> let
> > > > > it rest.
> > > > >
> > > > > Al
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > > > > [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
> > > > > RonMyers at wildblue.net
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 1:27 AM
> > > > > To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > > > > Subject: Re: [AT] OT: Gas story
> > > > >
> > > > > If I'm such an Idiot them why do these experts agree with what I
> have
> > > > > said.
> > > > >
> > > > > RON
> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> > > > > Ground temperatures
> > > > >
> > > > > At depths below four feet, ground temperature stays a constant 50
> to
> > > 55
> > > > > degrees Fahrenheit year-round.
> > > > >
> > > > > During the winter, a geothermal system absorbs this extra heat
> from
> > > the
> > > > > earth and transfers it into your home. During the summer, the
> system
> > > > > takes
> > > > > heat from indoors and moves it back underground.
> > > > >
> > > > > Annual air temperature, moisture content, soil type and vegetative
> > > cover
> > > > > (i.e., trees and plants) all have an effect on underground soil
> > > > > temperature.
> > > > >
> > > > > As you might expect, the earth's temperature changes in response
> to
> > > > > weather changes, but there is less change at greater depths.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Geothermal - ground temperatures
> > > >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > --
> > > > > ---------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > > Can't we all just get along?
> > > > > >          Dave
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At 12:37 AM 7/5/2007, you wrote:
> > > > > >>Sometimes I wonder... would this list be totally quiet if Walt
> never
> > > > > >>existed? ;-)
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Mattias
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>2007/7/5, charlie hill <chill8 at suddenlink.net>:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Ken,  Walt DOES think the world is flat.  That's why no one
> can
> > > > > >> explain
> > > > > >> > anything else to him.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Charlie
> > > > > >> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >> > From: "Ken Knierim" <ken.knierim at gmail.com>
> > > > > >> > To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
> > > > > >> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 9:33 PM
> > > > > >> > Subject: Re: [AT] OT: Gas story
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > > Ron,
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Average ground temp in central Arizona is over 80 degrees
> and
> > > > > higher
> > > > > >> > > than that right now. Outside temp is better than 115
> degrees
> as
> > > I
> > > > > >> type
> > > > > >> > > this. Pumps are calibrated at 60 degrees according to
> federal
> > > > > >> > > standards but the ground doesn't care; no temp regulation
> > > exists.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Solids, liquids and gases usually expand when heated,
> right?
> Do
> > > > > you
> > > > > >> > > THINK there might be a LITTLE expansion in the fuel with
> that
> > > > > kind
> > > > > >> of
> > > > > >> > > heat?  Do you know the coefficient of expansion for
> > > > > petrochemicals
> > > > > >> or
> > > > > >> > > more specifically, gasoline? Some quick research shows it's
> > > close
> > > > > to
> > > > > >> > > 4X that of mercury:
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > >
> http://dev.physicslab.org/Document.aspx?doctype=3&filename=ThermalPhysic
> > > > > s_ThermalExpansion.xml
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > With all due respect, there IS a difference due to
> temperature.
> > > > > Now
> > > > > >> > > whether you'll notice it with a vehicle is another story,
> but
> > > > > >> claiming
> > > > > >> > > it doesn't exist is like saying the earth is flat. You
> might
> > > not
> > > > > be
> > > > > >> > > able to see it (or electrons, for that matter) but claiming
> > > it's
> > > > > >> bull
> > > > > >> > > isn't very open-minded.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Ken in AZ
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > On 7/4/07, RonMyers at wildblue.net <RonMyers at wildblue.net>
> wrote:
> > > > > >> > >> George,
> > > > > >> > >> The temperature at the point where the underground tanks
> are
> > > > > stored
> > > > > >> is
> > > > > >> > on
> > > > > >> > >> average 55 deg.  No matter what part of the country that
> you
> > > > > live
> > > > > >> in.
> > > > > >> > >> North south east or west . this is set by the government
> > > > > >> regulations.
> > > > > >> > so
> > > > > >> > >> it really doesn't matter where you get it from.
> > > > > >> > >> In almost all states the meters on the pumps are tested to
> > > > > >> guarantee
> > > > > >> > >> their
> > > > > >> > >> accuracy so this whole bunch of Bull is just that a bunch
> of
> > > > > Bull.
> > > > > >> > >> You a full gallon of gas at each station or the government
> > > will
> > > > > >> come
> > > > > >> > down
> > > > > >> > >> hard on the owners.
> > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > >> > >> Ron
> > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > >> > >> > Some folks completely miss the point.  It's the
> temperature
> > > of
> > > > > >> the
> > > > > >> > gas
> > > > > >> > >> > when
> > > > > >> > >> > it's metered through the gas pump at the station that
> makes
> > > > > the
> > > > > >> > >> > difference.
> > > > > >> > >> > The gas that's expanded because it's warmer when it's
> > > measured
> > > > > >> and
> > > > > >> > sold
> > > > > >> > >> > is
> > > > > >> > >> > the point.  You're paying for slightly more than you're
> > > > > actually
> > > > > >> > >> > getting.
> > > > > >> > >> > I
> > > > > >> > >> > doubt the difference that's claimed is as large as
> stated,
> > > but
> > > > > >> > there's
> > > > > >> > >> > a
> > > > > >> > >> > difference anyway.
> > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > >> > >> > George Willer
> > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > >> > >> >> Subject: Re: [AT] OT: Gas story
> > > > > >> > >> >>
> > > > > >> > >> >> When you put the cold fuel in your hot tank sitting in
> the
> > > > > sun
> > > > > >> > >> >> alongside
> > > > > >> > >> >> the Mack doesn't it get warmer.
> > > > > >> > >> >> I can't believe that anybody would believe that the
> > > > > temperature
> > > > > >> of
> > > > > >> > the
> > > > > >> > >> >> fuel would make difference. If its gasoline its
> preheated
> > > > > before
> > > > > >> it
> > > > > >> > go
> > > > > >> > >> >> into the Carb. If its diesel it preheated in the
> manifold
> > > > > same
> > > > > >> as
> > > > > >> > fuel
> > > > > >> > >> >> injected cars.
> > > > > >> > >> >>
> > > > > >> > >> >> Ron
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