[AT] OT: Gas story

[captneb]

Is it really a good idea to quote the wisdom of an Alzheimer's patient,
George?  You confirm our suspicions about your sources.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "George Willer" <gwill at gwill.net>
To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'"
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Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: [AT] OT: Gas story


> Another quote on a slightly different topic that nearly fits here:
>
> "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's
> just that they know so much that isn't so."
>
> - Ronald Reagan
>
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com [mailto:at-
> > bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Al Jones
> > Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 9:24 AM
> > To: 'Antique tractor email discussion group'
> > Subject: Re: [AT] OT: Gas story
> >
> > I saved this from an earlier thread, it is such good advice I held onto
> > it:
> >
> > Two secrets to live by:
> >  1. Whenever you're wrong, admit it,
> >  2. Whenever you're right, shut up.
> >
> > Either way this topic has run its course.  Pick #1 or #2 above and let
> > it rest.
> >
> > Al
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
> > RonMyers at wildblue.net
> > Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 1:27 AM
> > To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > Subject: Re: [AT] OT: Gas story
> >
> > If I'm such an Idiot them why do these experts agree with what I have
> > said.
> >
> > RON
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Ground temperatures
> >
> > At depths below four feet, ground temperature stays a constant 50 to 55
> > degrees Fahrenheit year-round.
> >
> > During the winter, a geothermal system absorbs this extra heat from the
> > earth and transfers it into your home. During the summer, the system
> > takes
> > heat from indoors and moves it back underground.
> >
> > Annual air temperature, moisture content, soil type and vegetative cover
> > (i.e., trees and plants) all have an effect on underground soil
> > temperature.
> >
> > As you might expect, the earth's temperature changes in response to
> > weather changes, but there is less change at greater depths.
> >
> >
> > Geothermal - ground temperatures
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > ---------------------
> >
> > > Can't we all just get along?
> > >          Dave
> > >
> > > At 12:37 AM 7/5/2007, you wrote:
> > >>Sometimes I wonder... would this list be totally quiet if Walt never
> > >>existed? ;-)
> > >>
> > >>Mattias
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>2007/7/5, charlie hill <chill8 at suddenlink.net>:
> > >> >
> > >> > Ken,  Walt DOES think the world is flat.  That's why no one can
> > >> explain
> > >> > anything else to him.
> > >> >
> > >> > Charlie
> > >> > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > From: "Ken Knierim" <ken.knierim at gmail.com>
> > >> > To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
> > >> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > >> > >
> > >> > Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 9:33 PM
> > >> > Subject: Re: [AT] OT: Gas story
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > > Ron,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Average ground temp in central Arizona is over 80 degrees and
> > higher
> > >> > > than that right now. Outside temp is better than 115 degrees as I
> > >> type
> > >> > > this. Pumps are calibrated at 60 degrees according to federal
> > >> > > standards but the ground doesn't care; no temp regulation exists.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Solids, liquids and gases usually expand when heated, right? Do
> > you
> > >> > > THINK there might be a LITTLE expansion in the fuel with that
> > kind
> > >> of
> > >> > > heat?  Do you know the coefficient of expansion for
> > petrochemicals
> > >> or
> > >> > > more specifically, gasoline? Some quick research shows it's close
> > to
> > >> > > 4X that of mercury:
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > http://dev.physicslab.org/Document.aspx?doctype=3&filename=ThermalPhysic
> > s_ThermalExpansion.xml
> > >> > >
> > >> > > With all due respect, there IS a difference due to temperature.
> > Now
> > >> > > whether you'll notice it with a vehicle is another story, but
> > >> claiming
> > >> > > it doesn't exist is like saying the earth is flat. You might not
> > be
> > >> > > able to see it (or electrons, for that matter) but claiming it's
> > >> bull
> > >> > > isn't very open-minded.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Ken in AZ
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On 7/4/07, RonMyers at wildblue.net <RonMyers at wildblue.net> wrote:
> > >> > >> George,
> > >> > >> The temperature at the point where the underground tanks are
> > stored
> > >> is
> > >> > on
> > >> > >> average 55 deg.  No matter what part of the country that you
> > live
> > >> in.
> > >> > >> North south east or west . this is set by the government
> > >> regulations.
> > >> > so
> > >> > >> it really doesn't matter where you get it from.
> > >> > >> In almost all states the meters on the pumps are tested to
> > >> guarantee
> > >> > >> their
> > >> > >> accuracy so this whole bunch of Bull is just that a bunch of
> > Bull.
> > >> > >> You a full gallon of gas at each station or the government will
> > >> come
> > >> > down
> > >> > >> hard on the owners.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Ron
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> > Some folks completely miss the point.  It's the temperature of
> > >> the
> > >> > gas
> > >> > >> > when
> > >> > >> > it's metered through the gas pump at the station that makes
> > the
> > >> > >> > difference.
> > >> > >> > The gas that's expanded because it's warmer when it's measured
> > >> and
> > >> > sold
> > >> > >> > is
> > >> > >> > the point.  You're paying for slightly more than you're
> > actually
> > >> > >> > getting.
> > >> > >> > I
> > >> > >> > doubt the difference that's claimed is as large as stated, but
> > >> > there's
> > >> > >> > a
> > >> > >> > difference anyway.
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > George Willer
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> >> Subject: Re: [AT] OT: Gas story
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> When you put the cold fuel in your hot tank sitting in the
> > sun
> > >> > >> >> alongside
> > >> > >> >> the Mack doesn't it get warmer.
> > >> > >> >> I can't believe that anybody would believe that the
> > temperature
> > >> of
> > >> > the
> > >> > >> >> fuel would make difference. If its gasoline its preheated
> > before
> > >> it
> > >> > go
> > >> > >> >> into the Carb. If its diesel it preheated in the manifold
> > same
> > >> as
> > >> > fuel
> > >> > >> >> injected cars.
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> Ron
> > >> > >> >
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