[AT] OT: Gas story

[George Willer]

Another quote on a slightly different topic that nearly fits here:

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's
just that they know so much that isn't so." 

- Ronald Reagan





> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com [mailto:at-
> bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Al Jones
> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 9:24 AM
> To: 'Antique tractor email discussion group'
> Subject: Re: [AT] OT: Gas story
> 
> I saved this from an earlier thread, it is such good advice I held onto
> it:
> 
> Two secrets to live by:
>  1. Whenever you're wrong, admit it,
>  2. Whenever you're right, shut up.
> 
> Either way this topic has run its course.  Pick #1 or #2 above and let
> it rest.
> 
> Al
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
> RonMyers at wildblue.net
> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 1:27 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] OT: Gas story
> 
> If I'm such an Idiot them why do these experts agree with what I have
> said.
> 
> RON
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> Ground temperatures
> 
> At depths below four feet, ground temperature stays a constant 50 to 55
> degrees Fahrenheit year-round.
> 
> During the winter, a geothermal system absorbs this extra heat from the
> earth and transfers it into your home. During the summer, the system
> takes
> heat from indoors and moves it back underground.
> 
> Annual air temperature, moisture content, soil type and vegetative cover
> (i.e., trees and plants) all have an effect on underground soil
> temperature.
> 
> As you might expect, the earth's temperature changes in response to
> weather changes, but there is less change at greater depths.
> 
> 
> Geothermal - ground temperatures
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------------------
> 
> > Can't we all just get along?
> >          Dave
> >
> > At 12:37 AM 7/5/2007, you wrote:
> >>Sometimes I wonder... would this list be totally quiet if Walt never
> >>existed? ;-)
> >>
> >>Mattias
> >>
> >>
> >>2007/7/5, charlie hill <chill8 at suddenlink.net>:
> >> >
> >> > Ken,  Walt DOES think the world is flat.  That's why no one can
> >> explain
> >> > anything else to him.
> >> >
> >> > Charlie
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Ken Knierim" <ken.knierim at gmail.com>
> >> > To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
> >> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> >> > >
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 9:33 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [AT] OT: Gas story
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > Ron,
> >> > >
> >> > > Average ground temp in central Arizona is over 80 degrees and
> higher
> >> > > than that right now. Outside temp is better than 115 degrees as I
> >> type
> >> > > this. Pumps are calibrated at 60 degrees according to federal
> >> > > standards but the ground doesn't care; no temp regulation exists.
> >> > >
> >> > > Solids, liquids and gases usually expand when heated, right? Do
> you
> >> > > THINK there might be a LITTLE expansion in the fuel with that
> kind
> >> of
> >> > > heat?  Do you know the coefficient of expansion for
> petrochemicals
> >> or
> >> > > more specifically, gasoline? Some quick research shows it's close
> to
> >> > > 4X that of mercury:
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> http://dev.physicslab.org/Document.aspx?doctype=3&filename=ThermalPhysic
> s_ThermalExpansion.xml
> >> > >
> >> > > With all due respect, there IS a difference due to temperature.
> Now
> >> > > whether you'll notice it with a vehicle is another story, but
> >> claiming
> >> > > it doesn't exist is like saying the earth is flat. You might not
> be
> >> > > able to see it (or electrons, for that matter) but claiming it's
> >> bull
> >> > > isn't very open-minded.
> >> > >
> >> > > Ken in AZ
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On 7/4/07, RonMyers at wildblue.net <RonMyers at wildblue.net> wrote:
> >> > >> George,
> >> > >> The temperature at the point where the underground tanks are
> stored
> >> is
> >> > on
> >> > >> average 55 deg.  No matter what part of the country that you
> live
> >> in.
> >> > >> North south east or west . this is set by the government
> >> regulations.
> >> > so
> >> > >> it really doesn't matter where you get it from.
> >> > >> In almost all states the meters on the pumps are tested to
> >> guarantee
> >> > >> their
> >> > >> accuracy so this whole bunch of Bull is just that a bunch of
> Bull.
> >> > >> You a full gallon of gas at each station or the government will
> >> come
> >> > down
> >> > >> hard on the owners.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Ron
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > Some folks completely miss the point.  It's the temperature of
> >> the
> >> > gas
> >> > >> > when
> >> > >> > it's metered through the gas pump at the station that makes
> the
> >> > >> > difference.
> >> > >> > The gas that's expanded because it's warmer when it's measured
> >> and
> >> > sold
> >> > >> > is
> >> > >> > the point.  You're paying for slightly more than you're
> actually
> >> > >> > getting.
> >> > >> > I
> >> > >> > doubt the difference that's claimed is as large as stated, but
> >> > there's
> >> > >> > a
> >> > >> > difference anyway.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > George Willer
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >> Subject: Re: [AT] OT: Gas story
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> When you put the cold fuel in your hot tank sitting in the
> sun
> >> > >> >> alongside
> >> > >> >> the Mack doesn't it get warmer.
> >> > >> >> I can't believe that anybody would believe that the
> temperature
> >> of
> >> > the
> >> > >> >> fuel would make difference. If its gasoline its preheated
> before
> >> it
> >> > go
> >> > >> >> into the Carb. If its diesel it preheated in the manifold
> same
> >> as
> >> > fuel
> >> > >> >> injected cars.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> Ron
> >> > >> >
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