[AT] OT: Gas story

RonMyers at wildblue.net RonMyers at wildblue.net
Sun Jul 8 08:26:02 PDT 2007


George except for one slip for a guy named Jimmie I have voted straight
conservative republican ticket since 1966. Can you say that.
Ron.


> Another quote on a slightly different topic that nearly fits here:
>
> "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's
> just that they know so much that isn't so."
>
> - Ronald Reagan
>
>
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com [mailto:at-
>> bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Al Jones
>> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 9:24 AM
>> To: 'Antique tractor email discussion group'
>> Subject: Re: [AT] OT: Gas story
>>
>> I saved this from an earlier thread, it is such good advice I held onto
>> it:
>>
>> Two secrets to live by:
>>  1. Whenever you're wrong, admit it,
>>  2. Whenever you're right, shut up.
>>
>> Either way this topic has run its course.  Pick #1 or #2 above and let
>> it rest.
>>
>> Al
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
>> RonMyers at wildblue.net
>> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 1:27 AM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] OT: Gas story
>>
>> If I'm such an Idiot them why do these experts agree with what I have
>> said.
>>
>> RON
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Ground temperatures
>>
>> At depths below four feet, ground temperature stays a constant 50 to 55
>> degrees Fahrenheit year-round.
>>
>> During the winter, a geothermal system absorbs this extra heat from the
>> earth and transfers it into your home. During the summer, the system
>> takes
>> heat from indoors and moves it back underground.
>>
>> Annual air temperature, moisture content, soil type and vegetative cover
>> (i.e., trees and plants) all have an effect on underground soil
>> temperature.
>>
>> As you might expect, the earth's temperature changes in response to
>> weather changes, but there is less change at greater depths.
>>
>>
>> Geothermal - ground temperatures
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> ---------------------
>>
>> > Can't we all just get along?
>> >          Dave
>> >
>> > At 12:37 AM 7/5/2007, you wrote:
>> >>Sometimes I wonder... would this list be totally quiet if Walt never
>> >>existed? ;-)
>> >>
>> >>Mattias
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>2007/7/5, charlie hill <chill8 at suddenlink.net>:
>> >> >
>> >> > Ken,  Walt DOES think the world is flat.  That's why no one can
>> >> explain
>> >> > anything else to him.
>> >> >
>> >> > Charlie
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > From: "Ken Knierim" <ken.knierim at gmail.com>
>> >> > To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>> >> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> >> > >
>> >> > Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 9:33 PM
>> >> > Subject: Re: [AT] OT: Gas story
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > > Ron,
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Average ground temp in central Arizona is over 80 degrees and
>> higher
>> >> > > than that right now. Outside temp is better than 115 degrees as I
>> >> type
>> >> > > this. Pumps are calibrated at 60 degrees according to federal
>> >> > > standards but the ground doesn't care; no temp regulation exists.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Solids, liquids and gases usually expand when heated, right? Do
>> you
>> >> > > THINK there might be a LITTLE expansion in the fuel with that
>> kind
>> >> of
>> >> > > heat?  Do you know the coefficient of expansion for
>> petrochemicals
>> >> or
>> >> > > more specifically, gasoline? Some quick research shows it's close
>> to
>> >> > > 4X that of mercury:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> http://dev.physicslab.org/Document.aspx?doctype=3&filename=ThermalPhysic
>> s_ThermalExpansion.xml
>> >> > >
>> >> > > With all due respect, there IS a difference due to temperature.
>> Now
>> >> > > whether you'll notice it with a vehicle is another story, but
>> >> claiming
>> >> > > it doesn't exist is like saying the earth is flat. You might not
>> be
>> >> > > able to see it (or electrons, for that matter) but claiming it's
>> >> bull
>> >> > > isn't very open-minded.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Ken in AZ
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On 7/4/07, RonMyers at wildblue.net <RonMyers at wildblue.net> wrote:
>> >> > >> George,
>> >> > >> The temperature at the point where the underground tanks are
>> stored
>> >> is
>> >> > on
>> >> > >> average 55 deg.  No matter what part of the country that you
>> live
>> >> in.
>> >> > >> North south east or west . this is set by the government
>> >> regulations.
>> >> > so
>> >> > >> it really doesn't matter where you get it from.
>> >> > >> In almost all states the meters on the pumps are tested to
>> >> guarantee
>> >> > >> their
>> >> > >> accuracy so this whole bunch of Bull is just that a bunch of
>> Bull.
>> >> > >> You a full gallon of gas at each station or the government will
>> >> come
>> >> > down
>> >> > >> hard on the owners.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Ron
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> > Some folks completely miss the point.  It's the temperature of
>> >> the
>> >> > gas
>> >> > >> > when
>> >> > >> > it's metered through the gas pump at the station that makes
>> the
>> >> > >> > difference.
>> >> > >> > The gas that's expanded because it's warmer when it's measured
>> >> and
>> >> > sold
>> >> > >> > is
>> >> > >> > the point.  You're paying for slightly more than you're
>> actually
>> >> > >> > getting.
>> >> > >> > I
>> >> > >> > doubt the difference that's claimed is as large as stated, but
>> >> > there's
>> >> > >> > a
>> >> > >> > difference anyway.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > George Willer
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >> Subject: Re: [AT] OT: Gas story
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >> When you put the cold fuel in your hot tank sitting in the
>> sun
>> >> > >> >> alongside
>> >> > >> >> the Mack doesn't it get warmer.
>> >> > >> >> I can't believe that anybody would believe that the
>> temperature
>> >> of
>> >> > the
>> >> > >> >> fuel would make difference. If its gasoline its preheated
>> before
>> >> it
>> >> > go
>> >> > >> >> into the Carb. If its diesel it preheated in the manifold
>> same
>> >> as
>> >> > fuel
>> >> > >> >> injected cars.
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >> Ron
>> >> > >> >
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