[AT] OT: Gas story

[Al Jones]

I saved this from an earlier thread, it is such good advice I held onto
it:

Two secrets to live by:
 1. Whenever you're wrong, admit it,
 2. Whenever you're right, shut up.

Either way this topic has run its course.  Pick #1 or #2 above and let
it rest.

Al


-----Original Message-----
From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
[mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
RonMyers at wildblue.net
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 1:27 AM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] OT: Gas story

If I'm such an Idiot them why do these experts agree with what I have
said.

RON
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Ground temperatures

At depths below four feet, ground temperature stays a constant 50 to 55
degrees Fahrenheit year-round.

During the winter, a geothermal system absorbs this extra heat from the
earth and transfers it into your home. During the summer, the system
takes
heat from indoors and moves it back underground.

Annual air temperature, moisture content, soil type and vegetative cover
(i.e., trees and plants) all have an effect on underground soil
temperature.

As you might expect, the earth's temperature changes in response to
weather changes, but there is less change at greater depths.


Geothermal - ground temperatures
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> Can't we all just get along?
>          Dave
>
> At 12:37 AM 7/5/2007, you wrote:
>>Sometimes I wonder... would this list be totally quiet if Walt never
>>existed? ;-)
>>
>>Mattias
>>
>>
>>2007/7/5, charlie hill <chill8 at suddenlink.net>:
>> >
>> > Ken,  Walt DOES think the world is flat.  That's why no one can
>> explain
>> > anything else to him.
>> >
>> > Charlie
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Ken Knierim" <ken.knierim at gmail.com>
>> > To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> > >
>> > Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 9:33 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [AT] OT: Gas story
>> >
>> >
>> > > Ron,
>> > >
>> > > Average ground temp in central Arizona is over 80 degrees and
higher
>> > > than that right now. Outside temp is better than 115 degrees as I
>> type
>> > > this. Pumps are calibrated at 60 degrees according to federal
>> > > standards but the ground doesn't care; no temp regulation exists.
>> > >
>> > > Solids, liquids and gases usually expand when heated, right? Do
you
>> > > THINK there might be a LITTLE expansion in the fuel with that
kind
>> of
>> > > heat?  Do you know the coefficient of expansion for
petrochemicals
>> or
>> > > more specifically, gasoline? Some quick research shows it's close
to
>> > > 4X that of mercury:
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
http://dev.physicslab.org/Document.aspx?doctype=3&filename=ThermalPhysic
s_ThermalExpansion.xml
>> > >
>> > > With all due respect, there IS a difference due to temperature.
Now
>> > > whether you'll notice it with a vehicle is another story, but
>> claiming
>> > > it doesn't exist is like saying the earth is flat. You might not
be
>> > > able to see it (or electrons, for that matter) but claiming it's
>> bull
>> > > isn't very open-minded.
>> > >
>> > > Ken in AZ
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 7/4/07, RonMyers at wildblue.net <RonMyers at wildblue.net> wrote:
>> > >> George,
>> > >> The temperature at the point where the underground tanks are
stored
>> is
>> > on
>> > >> average 55 deg.  No matter what part of the country that you
live
>> in.
>> > >> North south east or west . this is set by the government
>> regulations.
>> > so
>> > >> it really doesn't matter where you get it from.
>> > >> In almost all states the meters on the pumps are tested to
>> guarantee
>> > >> their
>> > >> accuracy so this whole bunch of Bull is just that a bunch of
Bull.
>> > >> You a full gallon of gas at each station or the government will
>> come
>> > down
>> > >> hard on the owners.
>> > >>
>> > >> Ron
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> > Some folks completely miss the point.  It's the temperature of
>> the
>> > gas
>> > >> > when
>> > >> > it's metered through the gas pump at the station that makes
the
>> > >> > difference.
>> > >> > The gas that's expanded because it's warmer when it's measured
>> and
>> > sold
>> > >> > is
>> > >> > the point.  You're paying for slightly more than you're
actually
>> > >> > getting.
>> > >> > I
>> > >> > doubt the difference that's claimed is as large as stated, but
>> > there's
>> > >> > a
>> > >> > difference anyway.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > George Willer
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> Subject: Re: [AT] OT: Gas story
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> When you put the cold fuel in your hot tank sitting in the
sun
>> > >> >> alongside
>> > >> >> the Mack doesn't it get warmer.
>> > >> >> I can't believe that anybody would believe that the
temperature
>> of
>> > the
>> > >> >> fuel would make difference. If its gasoline its preheated
before
>> it
>> > go
>> > >> >> into the Carb. If its diesel it preheated in the manifold
same
>> as
>> > fuel
>> > >> >> injected cars.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Ron
>> > >> >
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