[AT] OT: Gas story

Dave Rotigel rotigel at alltel.net
Wed Jul 4 23:45:01 PDT 2007


Can't we all just get along?
         Dave

At 12:37 AM 7/5/2007, you wrote:
>Sometimes I wonder... would this list be totally quiet if Walt never
>existed? ;-)
>
>Mattias
>
>
>2007/7/5, charlie hill <chill8 at suddenlink.net>:
> >
> > Ken,  Walt DOES think the world is flat.  That's why no one can explain
> > anything else to him.
> >
> > Charlie
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ken Knierim" <ken.knierim at gmail.com>
> > To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > >
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 9:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AT] OT: Gas story
> >
> >
> > > Ron,
> > >
> > > Average ground temp in central Arizona is over 80 degrees and higher
> > > than that right now. Outside temp is better than 115 degrees as I type
> > > this. Pumps are calibrated at 60 degrees according to federal
> > > standards but the ground doesn't care; no temp regulation exists.
> > >
> > > Solids, liquids and gases usually expand when heated, right? Do you
> > > THINK there might be a LITTLE expansion in the fuel with that kind of
> > > heat?  Do you know the coefficient of expansion for petrochemicals or
> > > more specifically, gasoline? Some quick research shows it's close to
> > > 4X that of mercury:
> > >
> > >
> > 
> http://dev.physicslab.org/Document.aspx?doctype=3&filename=ThermalPhysics_ThermalExpansion.xml
> > >
> > > With all due respect, there IS a difference due to temperature. Now
> > > whether you'll notice it with a vehicle is another story, but claiming
> > > it doesn't exist is like saying the earth is flat. You might not be
> > > able to see it (or electrons, for that matter) but claiming it's bull
> > > isn't very open-minded.
> > >
> > > Ken in AZ
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7/4/07, RonMyers at wildblue.net <RonMyers at wildblue.net> wrote:
> > >> George,
> > >> The temperature at the point where the underground tanks are stored is
> > on
> > >> average 55 deg.  No matter what part of the country that you live in.
> > >> North south east or west . this is set by the government regulations.
> > so
> > >> it really doesn't matter where you get it from.
> > >> In almost all states the meters on the pumps are tested to guarantee
> > >> their
> > >> accuracy so this whole bunch of Bull is just that a bunch of Bull.
> > >> You a full gallon of gas at each station or the government will come
> > down
> > >> hard on the owners.
> > >>
> > >> Ron
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > Some folks completely miss the point.  It's the temperature of the
> > gas
> > >> > when
> > >> > it's metered through the gas pump at the station that makes the
> > >> > difference.
> > >> > The gas that's expanded because it's warmer when it's measured and
> > sold
> > >> > is
> > >> > the point.  You're paying for slightly more than you're actually
> > >> > getting.
> > >> > I
> > >> > doubt the difference that's claimed is as large as stated, but
> > there's
> > >> > a
> > >> > difference anyway.
> > >> >
> > >> > George Willer
> > >> >
> > >> >> Subject: Re: [AT] OT: Gas story
> > >> >>
> > >> >> When you put the cold fuel in your hot tank sitting in the sun
> > >> >> alongside
> > >> >> the Mack doesn't it get warmer.
> > >> >> I can't believe that anybody would believe that the temperature of
> > the
> > >> >> fuel would make difference. If its gasoline its preheated before it
> > go
> > >> >> into the Carb. If its diesel it preheated in the manifold same as
> > fuel
> > >> >> injected cars.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Ron
> > >> >
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