[AT] OT: Gas story

Paul pwaugh at mchsi.com
Wed Jul 4 17:17:00 PDT 2007


I guess he has never seen a 2 gallon plastic jug swell up like a dead
raccoon, it all makes sense and follows the lines I have been told most of
my life.
Paul Waugh

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[mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of George Willer
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 7:32 PM
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Subject: Re: [AT] OT: Gas story

Walt,

I guess it must be the different schools we went to.  

First, the ground temperature is NOT the same over the entire country.  It's
very close to the average year round air temperature of the area...
considerably warmer in the south.  The air temperature and sunshine (and
night time radiation) is mostly why the ground temperature is what it is in
any given area.

Second, the pumps meter by volume, not by weight, so when the gas is
expanded by higher temperature there isn't as much energy in a measured
gallon.

Third, it's not really the temperature of the ground, it's the temperature
of the contents of the tanker when delivering to a high volume outlet... the
gas is warmed by a long trip through hot summer air and doesn't reach the
temperature of the ground.  

Forth, Our division of weights and measures requires pumps to be accurate
within 10%.  They almost never deliver more than standard.  :-(

Fifth,  Sometimes things may seem like a bunch of bull if you don't
understand them.

George Willer

> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com [mailto:at-
> bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of RonMyers at wildblue.net
> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 6:59 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] OT: Gas story
> 
> George,
> The temperature at the point where the underground tanks are stored is on
> average 55 deg.  No matter what part of the country that you live in.
> North south east or west . this is set by the government regulations. so
> it really doesn't matter where you get it from.
> In almost all states the meters on the pumps are tested to guarantee their
> accuracy so this whole bunch of Bull is just that a bunch of Bull.
> You a full gallon of gas at each station or the government will come down
> hard on the owners.
> 
> Ron
> 
> 
> > Some folks completely miss the point.  It's the temperature of the gas
> > when
> > it's metered through the gas pump at the station that makes the
> > difference.
> > The gas that's expanded because it's warmer when it's measured and sold
> is
> > the point.  You're paying for slightly more than you're actually
> getting.
> > I
> > doubt the difference that's claimed is as large as stated, but there's a
> > difference anyway.
> >
> > George Willer
> >
> >> Subject: Re: [AT] OT: Gas story
> >>
> >> When you put the cold fuel in your hot tank sitting in the sun
> alongside
> >> the Mack doesn't it get warmer.
> >> I can't believe that anybody would believe that the temperature of the
> >> fuel would make difference. If its gasoline its preheated before it go
> >> into the Carb. If its diesel it preheated in the manifold same as fuel
> >> injected cars.
> >>
> >> Ron
> >
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