[AJD] Model L steering box

[Duane Larson]

Greg,
That is unusual there is no marking on the bearing - any idea why?  Are 
there other cases like that?  I've run into some where I couldn't find any 
number but they were normally worn.
Duane

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <greg at theoldtractorcompany.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [AJD] Model L steering box


> Check the LA parts catalog, PC151, page #47 down under the listings text.
> AL20244 is the changeover kit #
> And no, no #"s anywhere. Wish it were different
>
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> Greg Stephen
> The Old Tractor Company
> Stephen Equipment Company
> PO Box 709
> Franktown, CO 80116
> 303-663-5246
> 303-468-0377 FAX<<--GREAT WAY TO REACH ME!
>
> On Wed Jan 17  6:56 , 'Duane Larson' <jdlarson at comcast.net> sent:
>
>>Hi Greg,
>>Can you look (probably again) at the outer race and see if there are ANY
>>markings on the NOS bearing?  It seems unusual a bearing would have NO 
>>info
>>on it, as I doubt Deere made it.
>>The conversion kit was covered in the Service Hints 8-L, Moline Tractor
>>Works, March 1946 (but I'll bet you already know this - others may not).
>>Regards,
>>Duane
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: greg at theoldtractorcompany.com>
>>To: "Antique John Deere mailing list"
>>antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 1:26 AM
>>Subject: RE: [AJD] Model L steering box
>>
>>
>>> And leave us not forget, there was a conversion kit available at one 
>>> time
>>> from JD.
>>> So apparently Deere recognized this very same problem and engineered a
>>> solution to be
>>> able to use more commonly available bearings
>>>
>>> Don't EVEN ask how much the kits cost, it was insane 15 years ago and
>>> still insane
>>> today. I've often thought about replicating the kit to take care of this
>>> problem. I've
>>> also thought of the bushing-conversion process also. It's just a very
>>> irritating
>>> problem that needs a solution
>>>
>>> Greg
>>>
>>> if the need arises, I still have 1 NOS steering bearing residing in my
>>> desk, where I
>>> can glance at it from time to time while I await divine inspiration (!)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Greg Stephen
>>> The Old Tractor Company
>>> Stephen Equipment Company
>>> PO Box 709
>>> Franktown, CO 80116
>>> 303-663-5246
>>> 303-468-0377 FAX
>>>
>>> On Tue Jan 16 22:24 , 'Brad' bloomis at charter.net> sent:
>>>
>>>>My latest .02¢.
>>>>I'm working swing this week and dealing with about 50 frozen, burst 
>>>>water
>>>>lines and valves so it will be difficult to get a hold of my branch
>>>>manager
>>>>at Motion. However I took a print out of John's photo to work and an old
>>>>timer said, go look in the scrap bin at those hubs off John's 57 Chevy. 
>>>>So
>>>>you ask, what the heck are back plates, hubs, drums etc. doing in the
>>>>scrap
>>>>bin at a winery? Don't ask. Anyway, I found a very similar bearing 
>>>>labeled
>>>>"New Departure" with the number of 909701. I put the calipers to it and 
>>>>it
>>>>isn't close, 1.71 OD, 1.11 ID, and .5 high with one less ball. Doing a
>>>>Google on ND with the part number revealed the first hit as someone
>>>>looking
>>>>for that exact bearing for a governor on the YTMAG forum from two years
>>>>ago.
>>>>Just so they know, a wheel bearing from a 57 Chevy is the same. Close in
>>>>style to the L bearing, but not  quite. Same old timer, suggested 
>>>>looking
>>>>at
>>>>Ford Falcon wheel bearings from the early sixties. Who knows?
>>>>
>>>>I'll still pursue Motion as a possible source. The UHMW idea sounded
>>>>plausible and probably not that hard. We use a lot of it at work. Can be
>>>>purchased from Mc Master Carr in many forms. Machines pretty easily.
>>>>
>>>>This is a fun hunt, well maybe for me since I don't own the poor thing
>>>>that
>>>>needs the bearings. Heck, my only Deere is still my 20 year old push
>>>>mower.
>>>>
>>>>Brad Loomis
>>>>San Miguel, CA
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>I just  examined the upper bearing race, as this is
>>>>easily removable when the steering box is
>>>>disassembled. I could not find any markings on it. To
>>>>make sure I did not miss anything, I had my wife,
>>>>Kathy, take a good look at it , too, since her
>>>>quilter's eyes are good  at finding small details.
>>>>Nada.
>>>>
>>>>I have never removed one of the lower bearing races as
>>>>this is either pressed into the body of the steering
>>>>box or machined into the box (never examined it that
>>>>closely to determine which).
>>>>
>>>>John Boehm
>>>>Woodland, CA
>>>>Visit my web site at http://vintagetractors.com
>>>>
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